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| Quote ="Tre Cool"You've deliberately changed what he said to make it sound worse than what he actually said.'"
Surely not! You mean this isn't true.... ?
Quote ="gutterfax"Billy doesn't make stuff up.......'"
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| Quote ="Tre Cool"You've deliberately changed what he said to make it sound worse than what he actually said.'"
I did?
[url=http://www.totalrl.com/forums/index.php/topic/246032-super-league-sponsor-thread-merged-threads/?p=2867696If you say so[/url.
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| Quote ="loiner81"Wow a whole 3 months ago, that's not even worth mentioning then is it.
You keep saying 27% like it's nothing, it's over 100,000 people.
I must've missed all these £5 tickets, which games in England were a fiver?
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Tonga v Cooks at Leigh was a fiver
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| Quote ="Starbug"Tonga v Cooks at Leigh was a fiver'"
Was it actually a fiver or was it £5 if you typed a promo code in. Promo code that people generally only know about if you use forums like this. Didn't know RLFANS had over 400,000 users!
I'm sure you can get discounted tickets at cricket World Cup, union World Cup even the football World Cup.
Of course RL WC tickets were virtually given away that we're set to make te biggest profit the tournament had ever made.
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| Quote ="Bull Mania"Was it actually a fiver or was it £5 if you typed a promo code in. Promo code that people generally only know about if you use forums like this. Didn't know RLFANS had over 400,000 users!
I'm sure you can get discounted tickets at cricket World Cup, union World Cup even the football World Cup.
Of course RL WC tickets were virtually given away that we're set to make te biggest profit the tournament had ever made.'"
Fiver from ticket office at Leigh
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| Quote ="Bull Mania"Was it actually a fiver or was it £5 if you typed a promo code in. Promo code that people generally only know about if you use forums like this. Didn't know RLFANS had over 400,000 users!
I'm sure you can get discounted tickets at cricket World Cup, union World Cup even the football World Cup.
Of course RL WC tickets were virtually given away that we're set to make te biggest profit the tournament had ever made.'"
Are you suggesting that 400,000 different people attended a RLWC game?
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| Quote ="Starbug"Tonga v Cooks at Leigh was a fiver'"
Cheers.
So 1 game then. Midweek. In Leigh. With the Cook Islands.
Seems fair
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| Quote ="loiner81"Cheers.
So 1 game then. Midweek. In Leigh. With the Cook Islands.
Seems fair
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I was offered to attend several games at the same price by people attending other games?
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| seriously another thread completely gone off the tracks and its always the same subject.
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| Quote ="dubairl"seriously another thread completely gone off the tracks and its always the same subject.'"
Did you find out what you were looking for on the Leigh site?
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| Quote ="Starbug"Did you find out what you were looking for on the Leigh site?'"
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"They'd be better putting the full 750k into marketing or into some initiatives to get more fans to games,such as away day coach deals.'"
At last, someone said something constructive.
If this deal is worth the reported £750k per annum, and the reported Bet Fair deal that was rejected for the Stobart deal was worth £1m is it not a step in the right direction? 7
Seen as everyone nearly lost their minds about not taking the Bet fair deal?
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| Quote ="jonny the leyther"At last, someone said something constructive.
If this deal is worth the reported £750k per annum, and the reported Bet Fair deal that was rejected for the Stobart deal was worth £1m is it not a step in the right direction? 7
Seen as everyone nearly lost their minds about not taking the Bet fair deal?'"
Jonny, there is speculation its either 750 K over 3 years, or part of it is a ' sign up ' deal, I dont think anybody is sure yet
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| No-one knows anything for certain about this deal other than its First Utilities and it's for 3 years.
For the other details, let's be good RL fans and think the worst without any actual knowledge.
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| Quote ="Starbug"Jonny, there is speculation its either 750 K over 3 years, or part of it is a ' sign up ' deal, I dont think anybody is sure yet'"
According to First:Utility on twitter, [url=https://twitter.com/First_Utility/status/425663569774903296"It is a confidential fee, which we will not be disclosing"[/url.
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| great way to embrace our new league sponsor. ffs wish some people wasn't allowed to use the internet.
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| I can't beleive the good DR has spent 12 months putting out fake PR after fake PR for Salford, then has the audacity to be critical of someone elses fake PR.
Talk about shooting yourself in the foot. If he wants more money in RL, then you don't talk down anything, because other wise when the next deal is up for bidding , they will bid you down.
With a sponsorship deal you should be pushing the value of the deal to the maximum, so the next time round other bidders are aiming higher and not lower.
To try and under cut the story on the first day shows that he has well and truely joined the ranks of the RL establishment of fans. People who can't help but put foot in mouth about the game.
If he has an issue with the deal, there have been and will be plenty of RL and SL meetings for him to bash heads and demand better.
It's as though we can't help ourselves, from running our own game down. I'm sure First Utilities are delighted with the open and negative spin they have got from this. I'm sure lots of other sponsors are looking at the fans reaction and saying, hmmm there is a tempting offer, sponsor a sport and get slated for it.
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| Maybe it's £750k per club per annum?
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| It's reasonable to conclude the size of the sponsorship deal in terms of money handed over is nothing to shout about from the rooftops... otherwise details would have been provided with accompanying huge fanfare as opposed to the policy of confidentiality and keeping schtum.
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| Quote ="loiner81"Why does everything with you have to be compared with RU? It's a different sport played that most of us could care less about....'"
You don't care...but
Quote ="loiner81" How did the last RU WC go? Biggest drop in attendances in the history of the sport wasn't it? The RL WC broke records left right and centre. '"
If you think the drop in attendances was bad for RWC 2011, look away when it comes to the increase in 2015 you really are an idiot aren't you? New Zealand, population 4 million and change....RLWC 2013 host nations 100,000,000+.........which comp has a million more spectators and not a double header in sight?
The combined attendances from the 13 RLWC's 1954-2008 was less than the 2007 RWC managed on its own......do you want to compare the World Cups some more?
As for the Sponsorship deal......if it were all cash, the RFL would have said it was. It is a contra deal with a % of the money dependant on how many fans sign up to this company for gas and power. If you think otherwise, then fine, but it would show exactly how naïve and in denial you really are
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| Quote ="gutterfax"You don't care...but
If you think the drop in attendances was bad for RWC 2011, look away when it comes to the increase in 2015
you really are an idiot aren't you? New Zealand, population 4 million and change....RLWC 2013 host nations 100,000,000+.........which comp has a million more spectators and not a double header in sight?
The combined attendances from the 13 RLWC's 1954-2008 was less than the 2007 RWC managed on its own......do you want to compare the World Cups some more?
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No, i'm not interested in comparing another sports attendances with ours like i mentioned earlier and which you've conveniently ignored - again, it's irrelevant. Let's look at our own attendances and see if we can improve on those each time, that's what's important. We broke record after record last year, that's all that matters. Hopefully the Aussies will do the same next time out.
As usual you brought RU into it so I pointed out the last RU WC was a total disaster by their standards showing the biggest drop in attendances in RU WC history (have NZ ever hosted a WC before?) You've come back with a load of excuses and moved the goal posts, again.
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As for the Sponsorship deal......if it were all cash, the RFL would have said it was. It is a contra deal with a % of the money dependant on how many fans sign up to this company for gas and power. If you think otherwise, then fine, but it would show exactly how naïve and in denial you really are
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Wow. You never learn do you.
And what's with all the insults? For someone who's obviously fairly intelligent you somehow manage to sound like a 12 year old boy on here arguing day after day over who's got the best toys. It's embarrassing.
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| Quote ="gutterfax" It is a contra deal with a % of the money dependant on how many fans sign up to this company for gas and power. If you think otherwise, then fine, but it would show exactly how naïve and in denial you really are
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If it was a contra deal, surely they would have said in the press release to get more fans signed up so First:Utilities get more customers, SL more money. I can't see it been something they wouldn't mention. However i did notice in the press release they said "unique deal" so we shall wait and see.
I think cash has been exchanged. £750k over 3 years is the figure been most put about. If they have a contra deal as well, it may not be too bad a deal. Many RL fans will switch to product just because the support RL. So could get some decent money off that.
Yes it is some way off the engage deal which shows how much the Stobart deal hurt the sport and people should have lost their jobs for that. However £250k per year, plus % money back on contra deal is a damn lot better than £0 and a 100 painted lorries. Hopefully we can build on this deal and have more bargaining power come 3 years time.
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| I don't think anyone has mentioned yet that the press release stated that this is the first of a series of announcements regarding sponsorship.
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| Where has it been said it's not a cash deal?
The only figures I've seen on articles if £750k per year for 3 years.
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| Quote ="Him"Where has it been said it's not a cash deal?
The only figures I've seen on articles if £750k per year for 3 years.'"
Yeah just read few articles that say £750k per year. At first heard a lot of whisperings it aas £750k over 3 years. That's a very good deal IMO considering the position we out ourselves in.
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