Of course, I keep forgetting how ' Iconic ' they are



So now we have a structure based on ' Bribery ' even if it just delays the inevitable, SL just keeps getting better and better

This analogy makes no sense.

First OK did not have to get involved at all. He had a free choice. No gun to his head.

Second he could have taken over the Bulls and dropped 1 or 2 divisions. No Sky money there but also a massively reduced cost base. No gun to his head here.

No one forced Khan and Sutcliffe (a man with no apparent business acumen)to offer to waive 1 year of Sky money to stay in SL.No gun to his head once again.

The RFL judged that Khan and Sutcliffe had the resources and expertise to run a successful SL club receiving 50% sky money for 2 years. Dreadful call by the OK team and the RFL.

There's no coercion here (as in a mugging) just plenty of incompetence and poor judgement.

Unfortunate Bulls employees have paid with their jobs, OK has been hit hard financially and the RFL fat cats continue with impunity !

You talk soo much brown stuff its unreal. Up to now they have only had 650k withheld. Also I never said the 300k had anything to do with the RFL. I actually said it had nothing to do with the RFL. They still have the lease so OK Bulls can-t use that to pay off a loan which you stated. So once again you contradict yourself. So I'll ask again has the 300k to the council been repaid.

can't wait for smokeys next trip up his own backside.

Dont be holding your breath waiting for an answer from Smokey on this, and if it comes you wont understand it

I didnt expect any! there were very reasonable options, ala wakey. or drop a league. Not ideal, but they could at least build again and grow back to where they belong with P&R back

I never mentioned anything to do with the council, that is entirely down to you.

Your argument that Bradford have only had £650k taken from them as of now, as they only 'will' have another £650k taken from them is so poor I'm embarressed for you. To pretend that Bradford having £650k taken from next years income has nothing to do with a projected shortfall next year is simply stupid.

Doing a 'wakey' at that point would have been utterly pointless. By the time Omar Kahn was involved that obviously wasn't an option, the time had passed it wasn't in any way an option.

Relegating would have and will (should they be ever be relegated) absolutely destroy. Bradford, they would have no team as their players would have left, their academy would be dismantled, and they would need to run a championship squad, on championship income, in front of championship attendances, and championship sponsors, with The huge overheads they carry now. Pro RL in Bradford would be dead

There were three possible outcomes, try to struggle on with 50% sky money and maybe survive,

Go into the championships with a club in no way set up for semi-pro RL

Or close the club down.

They had a choice , they put themselves into the position of having to make it, no sympathy whatsoever, they were welcome to join us in the Championship and forgo the £ 650,000 they did recieve last year

No it isn't - the stupid thing is budgeting to spend more than you know you will have.

And, even with the extra Sky money I'd bet they'd still be in the same boat as they are nowl.

They? Who are they? What an idiotic way of thinking, even for you.

Are we blaming the Bradford fans here? Was it them that put themselves in this position? Did they run the club in to the ground? Even those who stumped up pretty big sums to try and keep their club alive, are they the ones we should have no sympathy for?

Was it the players? Those that had their livelihoods disputed through no fault of their own? Is it those that we shouldn't have sympathy for?

Was it Omar Kahn or the three directors now who got themselves in that position? Those who have put their time and money in to trying to rebuild the club? Are they bad guys here who needed punishing?

Or was it people who are in no way connected to the club now and who were in no way affected by this idiotic punishment who were the ones who got Bradford into the mess?

Yes, it is. Bradford have a projected shortfall next year. They have a lower income next year. I'm not sure how much clearer it could be spelt out

Whose fault is it that Hunslet arent a SL club?

God your a bore

No ones

Sorry, carry on with your misplaced schadenfreude.

Not enough people in Leeds were willing to support the club to the level required

Similarily not enough people in Bradford are willing to support the Bulls to the level required

So what do you do? , you cut your cloth accordingly, Mr Kahn knew this before he got involved, as does anybody, if he didnt have the money to lose or the skills to change it overnight, then tough , its called ' Life ' , if that meant the club being relegated and even potentially lost, then tough, Bradford wouldnt deserve a club, end of

it doesn't mean the club gets relegated. There is no need it should. That isn't 'life' at all. It's the schadenfreude of a bitter middle aged man.

So why offer to give up the money?

Because that's what was asked of them to retain their licence

Was it asked of or offered by? Not a trick question it's just that I've not seen anything conclusive.

I don't think it's very likely Omar Kahn gave £1.3m over two years to the other SL clubs just to be nice, do you?

The Bulls were given a 12 provisional licence last January. Does anyone know whether that licence has been extended for 2014 yet?

GO ON...SAY IT AGAIN!!!!

Who mentioned being nice?
He may have offered it to get a SL licence he was about to lose however even though he couldn't afford it and he didn't have the foresight/nous to see it.