And while we're worrying about Quins sustainability, when was the last time that two teams in SL appeared without a main sponsor on their jersey? That's a big chunk of money that Quins & Crusaders are doing without at the moment.

So after reading all of this and not being at the game. Was this the figure given out on the PA or is this the figure plucked from the Press Association who had a crowd of 800 and odd at Hull KR last year.

I find it hard that the crowd is so low considering the amount of advertising in the Metro for this game and ticket offers.

Like others the stoop is not a 15 min journey from Waterloo. Its a good 30 - 40 mins. Plus getting to waterloo in the first. Would mean and journey of 1 hour 10mins for me. Its like an away day every week.

Why do a lot of Quins fans always moan about how long it takes to get there? Is it not similar for fans of all clubs? London has one if the biggest & longest tube networks on the planet and within 3 tubes you can likely get to anywhere on any line!

for gawds sake,you're complaining about 70 minutes travelling time to get to match ?



I drive three & half hours one way to see TO13 as a season ticket holder,my [unearest[/u RL team !

it takes me six hours to get to Perpignan to see SL games so PLEASE don't whinge about travelling times !

if you are a true RL fan you will support your club and make the effort,instead of making lame excuses, end of.

dids858 it was announced at the game

You can't get all the way to Twickenham on the tube as it doesn't have a tube station

After five minutes, the players shirts were so muddy it would have been hard to tell who was sponsoring them anyway.
Anybody know how much it costs to be the main sponsor of an expansion club?

Train & tubes then my apologies. Have stayed in Twickers for a trip to the capital once so know it ain't too bad!

wow that a lot of travelling.

i used to complain about a 90 minute drive to wollongong

used to be a decent bus service from Hounslow to Twickers - does it still exist ?

120 plus Crusaders fans made the journey, averaging a 400 miles plus round trip each, just a week after an expensive weekend in Cardiff. I'm sure a fair few of the eighty odd thousand who will be attending a certain match across the road next week will manage to use the public transport.

you're telling me dm ! it it wasn't for the superb french motorway system I couldn't do it - I've just been made redundant so,the house is on the market and we're heading south to the TO area,fingers crossed...
can't imagine any other fan in europe doing as many kms as me - think I deserve some kind of medal... mind you,it has it's advantages : a weekend in Perpignan [uwithout[/u 'er indoors for example..

plus living in the south of france will beat living in most other areas where the game is played.

ie Barrow in Furness,Bradford,'Ull,Keighley,Workington et al..........

seems strange thinking about a 'new start' at 57 !

When I lived in the east end, a mate of mine was on a course for a fortnight at the National Athletics Centre in Crystal Palace, so he stayed at my flat. As the crow flies, it's about 7 miles away. To get there, he had to leave at 6am, walk to a DRL station, get a train across the river, get an overground train, then get two buses. It took over 2 and a half hours.

As he pointed out afterwards, he was doing a course in SE London so he stayed with a mate in east London - sounds simple, but in travel terms it was like doing a course in Coventry, and staying with a mate in Preston.

Which is a long way of saying: no, its not like it is for other clubs. London is not one city, it is 100 towns all bolted on to one another with no gaps in between. It took me 3 hours to drive to Quins from Exeter (180 miles). It would take about the same time to drive (through the middle) from Tottenham (at least on a work day... about 15 miles).

Lazy bugger , why didn't he just walk it , or buy a bike



Anyway not the point , come on Joe , how many were there yesterday at the stoop ? , your an unbiased leyther so you wont lie

The thing is though we aren't talking about the difference between 10,000 & 15,000 fans into attendance which is where you may say you can't call London one place... We are talking about less than 1800!

You'd have thought if he was at a course at the National Athletics Centre he should have just run the seven miles in less than an hour.

Having said that...Crystal Palace is in some sort of space vortex from the rest of London. It might as well be the moon.

You could explain travelling accross London to out-of-towners in terms of population not distance. If you're going from, say, Hackney to Twickenham, you pass through about 3 million people a few miles either side of your route, the equivalent of going from Hull to Warrington. Every game is an away game.

Hence why I wouldn't live in a god forsaken place like london , or Manchester , or Leeds , or Liverpool , and definatley Newcastle or Birmingham , cos they talk funny

why is it that when it suits Quins are important as they represent the millions of London, yet when it comes down to getting to games they claim they are all too far away and in reality their local popualtion is about the size of Cas! Which is it, big city team or outer suburb park side?

If I was an actual Londoner, why would I have any interest in a club called Harlequins? If it was called London, I might.

And who spouted the bull about Quins RL being 6 years old? As a name, maybe, or a new company, or whatever, but as the face of London RL, it is many years older than that, under it's different guises.

They are doing a lot for the amateur game, by all accounts, which might bear fruit in the long run, but attendances are going a long way backwards, and unlike a lot of the heartland teams, there probably isn't a lot of part-time support to tap into (ie, if a lot of the established clubs do well, there are a lot of people who will turn up again). They need to sort it out, because it would look like a defeat for the game if London failed, but how long do we keep trying for? It is more than 30 years since Quins first started, if you work on the assumption that Fulham was the original guise, and we are no further on, apart from the amateur game.

What about moving to somewhere where there isn't a big alternative sporting presence but an appetite for rugby league. The Crusaders move to Wrexham was a good one, away from union territory and into an area where there isn't much local alternative for sport. What town around London would suit that? Hemel Hempstead was often touted.

Unfortunately, it's attitudes like that, that are preventing more support coming through. I've heard people say they'll only support us if we go back to Broncos and blah, blah but if you're an RL fan then it shouldn't matter what we're called.
As for people complaining about our location, we couldn't be closer to central london if we tried! 15 mins away from Waterloo on the train, one of the biggest tourist attractions in London. As for a new home, where are we supposed to move to then? The only other option is Brentford, and the Stoop is a much better stadium.

Dissapointed that the sole focus seems to be on a crowd anounced lower than was, as it was a good win and we played some good stuff, there also seemed to be a lot of new comers where I usually sit too. However I suppose it's virtually impossible for us to not be criticized by some. If it's not our performances, it's always something else.

Slugger- If you were from London and liked football would you be happy to follow Arsenal?

As bad as the crowds are we are not that far behind well established RL icons! such as Wakefiled, Salford etc

Lets see who gets kicked out next year Slugger- Enjoy your trips to Batley.

Its only correct clubs with bad finances are removed from the top tier of the game-how about that? Lets not focus on one aspect lets focus on the whole club management- goodnight

TBh if I lived in London I wouldn't support a club that has jumped into bed with RU, wears a stupid looking kit and based itself in the heart of Union territory. Call me old fashioned but Union is and always be the enemy as far as I am concerned and any RL club that stoops so low (excuse the pun) as to become a pseudo RU club wouldn't get my hard earned.