they'll be gone and I think they and their supporters realise it.
Might as well replace them now..

Not half as bad as some like to make out and improving year on year.

As I've pointed out on a couple of other threads:


We have an other sports forum to discuss other sports.

Crowds for association football or rugby union in New Zealand or anywhere else are distinctly 'other sport'.

I'm currently tidying the thread: after I do that and unlock it, please stay on topic.


A general warning: we're not going back to the days when the VT, which is a forum for discussing rugby league, was fully of dick-comparing contests talking about RU or Aussie Rules. As we seem to be getting more threads heading that way, I'll be clamping down on them.

So which team is likely to be the next to crash through the 10k average barrier?

Hull KR

Huddersfield

Les Catalans or someone else?

warrington



whoever gets the extension fastest from kr or cats.
maybe crusaders

Haha, crusaders, forgot bout them.

You never know, things are looking up atm for the Welsh club.

I noticed Hudds are stuck around the 7.5k and have been there for 2 or so seasons, do you think they can get close to 10k this year, they have a decent team?

They had good improvements on the back of GREAT season pass deals.
Decent team, I reckon they'll come in about 5th but with all those deals, if they haven't hit 10k yet losing a LOT of money then they never will imho

Hull FC v Castleford 13,352

Leeds v Harlequins 12,684

Bradford v Wigan 9,244

Salford v Catalans 3,022

Bradford need a new coach to bring some positivity back. That's horrendous for a crowd against a big name like Wigoon. What sort of crowd will they draw for Catalans or Salford?

Salford's crowds need to double if they are to remain in SL. I'll repeat it, how on earth are they still operating with income streams like that?

You can add Harlequins to that conundrum too. It'll be Salford that get booted though. Straight swap for Widnes.

Thats exactly what it should be.
I mean, people call the Crusaders but between them and Salford now, there's a galaxy.
Quins always have that expansion card and the nice new stadium to fall back on.

Interestingly though, if Salford moved to the trafford centre..would they be within 20 miles of any other club? I bet it would be close...

leeds crowds are poor

are the people of leeds just bored with winning SL or is the fact that utd will soon be promoted the difference

either way poor effort from the leagues biggest team

not if they get the new ground started

Morning Dally



Ah yes, the stadium building. Of course.

without wanting to turn this thread into another license debate...Quins application will be weaker this time, crowds have fallen further (therefore so will revenue) their performances have slipped (used to be outside bets for a playoff spot, now seem to be heading for the bottom 2/3) so apart from the ground and the location, I don't see what other criteria they meet. The RFL will probably introduce a last minute 'points for having quartered shirts' rule at the last minute though



Salford are in a worse state though, I can barely see them meeting any of the criteria, I can't understand where their crowds have gone. I know its a poor ground but the crowds have dipped the last few years...you can't even say its due to their form, as they have always struggled in SL (except for their one playoff finish)

Can we give the Cumbrians ago at Super League , don't want another French team bring no support and costs a bomb to go over to support your own team once a year never mind twice plus the NONE Magic Weekend .
Clubs struggling for money just a waste of there money and ours.

The cumbrians have had ago, they failed

Indeed - Workington - once - over a decade ago.

That's enough of that for them woolly upstarts

Workington failed quite miserably though didnt they.

What has changed in the inherent problems a cumbrian side would have to make the chances of success higher?

If Salford are deemed strong enough then surely a Cumbrian side could be?

Why are you asking me? Did you read my post?

I reckon HKR will go through the 10k avg when there East stand extension is built. That will add another 1500 to the capacity and encourage alot more walk ups.

Certainly puts to bed the notion that Hull can't support two SL clubs. A tremendous Rugby League city.

The ST deal didn't actually lead to a massive increase FYI. Our improvements have been steady, season after season and whilst they weren't as big as the club would have wanted after the ST deal last season the recession and reduction in floating support from home and visiting supporters took an edge off it.

The reality is that we've increased our attendances year on year for the last 4-5 seasons.

It is totally incorrect to put our increases down to the ST deal so to base your opinion on that fact is flawed.