Oh dear. Can't handle the maths? Percentages tells a more relevant story than using just numbers. You see, if i earn £2m and give £1m away to disadvantaged Australians - i would have given 50% of my earnings. Quite generous no? You earn £8m and give £1m to needy unwashed northerners in the UK. Now, it would appear that you've given the same money as me. Strictly speaking you have - but i'm technically more generous because you've only given away 12.5% of your earnings. Geddit?

Of course you do - you're not stupid.

None of the area round manchester so oldham, salford, rochdale and swinton dont count to fit your logic?

And you werent talking about average crowds your were talking about th population or do we ignore that to suit your argument?

Leeds isnt a heartland area then?



as i've just said west yorkshire alone has over 2 million and with leeds, bradford, castleford, huddersfiled, wakefield, featherstone, hunslet, keighley, dewsbury, batley and halifax all playing in the county i think we can safely say that is a heartland area.

i asked a question, how many clubs.

if you arent interested in the question dont answer it.

simple question even for dummies,

as i said add up all the crowds for the RL clubs around manchester and it isnt 10,000. compare that to all the soccer clubs there.

in sydney its all RL as the dominant code, we dont share it with soccer.

you share much of yours with soccer and live with basically the scraps.

so we have changed it from population to average crowds just so we can suit your argument?



Notice you dont mention any of the other points

Don't be pathetic, Widnes didn't fold, they went into administration, and Bradford Northern rejoined a large 30 team league when they reapplied. Neither is even remotely the same as putting a team straight into SL, especially when unlike Bradford or Widnes they have no history of anything but almost the most miserable failure imaginable and with no fanbase. If they want to have a successful French Elite team then it might be worth considering, otherwise we may as well burn millions of RL money and play a team short in preparation for them folding almost immediately.

If we base things on your stupid potential argument we should shut down every NRL team apart from one in Sydney, Melbourne and at an absolute stretch Brisbane and replace them all with Chinese, Japanese and Indian teams. That's the level of your logic, all that matters is how good a team actually is, potential is an excuse for a bad team


They're still pure rubbish on the field and unless they make an effort they shouldn't be rewarded with a SL spot, SL is not an anti-British pro-French charity, it is a business and a sporting competition. When they can justify their place then I'm sure they will make a good addition, but there should be no racist exemptions, if they can't reach a grand final or win the NRC then tough their application should go straight in the bin.

very amusing.

if the population dont watch RL how can they be heartlands ?

are they some kind of silent majority?

What's amusing is you want to destroy SL by replacing teams people watch with far worse teams that noone would watch and yet apply completely different standards to the NRL, where the expansion teams have more chance of working.

There is not a shred of evidence that there's RL interest in Paris to support a SL team and lots of evidence it couldn't.

Toulouse might work one day, but they are clearly making no effort.

Can you please explain why a team making no effort to meet SL criteria and right near the bottom of the Championship (and that with exemptions from the overseas quota) should be let into SL? Remember them being French is not an argument, nor is their cities population as SL isn't a charity

Like paris you mean

Do you want to discuss things or are you just posting random words ?

Go on give us a clue , or do you just have ' wind ' or something ?

He's just posting random words

I'm begining to wonder

Yes , and your point is ?

The population of theses area do watch rl, unless your suggesting that all the stadiums are empty every match?

An thats why nobody takes you seriously dally, you make throw away comments and put a smiley there everytime you (inevitabley) lose an argument.

Is this you Dally?

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He is only following in a long line of others that do the same though , some use an emoticon , some use pedantry , some just insult and pretend they are operating on a higher intellectual level to avoid answering simple questions , oh and Smokey just try's to make the argument that complicated till you get bored

He has slight dementia.

"Why would you want one of those? You can't get lost. There is no fun in that."

Bit of a giveaway you would have thought.

What's good for the Goose!

So you want big cities in SL but happy with regional towns in the NRL? Sure there is some logic in your arguments somewhere!

Exactly, which is why it is pointless trying to argue with him because he is either a troll or too stupid to come to a logical conclusion.

He is arguing that Wakefield should be kicked out of SL. Last year he was saying that they should never kick a club out. Contradiction.

He is arguing that West Yorkshire is a football area (which to be fair, like every part of this country, it's true). Last year he was saying that it wasn't, even saying we should add up the attendances of the clubs (which still proved him wrong!).

Now he is arguing we should let in expansion clubs no matter what, and IN THE SAME THREAD has said he would rather have a NSW NRL club (non-expansion) over WA Reds (expansion). Isn't that like picking a Yorkshire or Lancashire club over Toulouse?

He doesn't reply to anything I post anymore because I've humiliated him one too many times. So if someone else would be kind enough to probe him for these points I would be greatfully amused

in fairness in his own head it works rather well.

I'll do what i can



welluntill like all the other ocker trolls he just gets a new user name.

if they do watch games then it will be reflected in the crowd figures i talked about

hth

heck leeds utd, a 3rd division soccer side get bigger crowds than the best team in SL.

heartlands?