They played it here to "promote" the game in the UK?

I doubt it, somehow.

So just more crassness and dumbery from a bunch of arrogant Ocker know-nothings.

the wallabies played the All Blacks in england as well didnt they?

what crowd did that get?

and the Bledisloe cup was played in hong kong recently and it was a sell out.

why is it other sports can do the exact same thing but the idea that RL will do it sends people scurrying away in fear.

i like your debating style.

Dally, have you been to the UK ever? (that is a serious question by the way!)

I actually don't think your idea is that bad, but then I also don't think it will help promote/expand the game of Rugby League in England as much as you think.

But as I said taking the origin game on the road in Aus is a fantastic idea and one they should look at in more states.

You have to admire the way 2 ockers have stretched a half-formed thought into 16 pages of, ahem, "debate".

What's laughable is you cited examples of football and Rugby Union games being played in this country not involving an England side. As much as it pains you to hear this, both those sports have huge followings in the south of England.

On the other hand, if that game of Union had been played in, say for example, Manchester, Leeds or Hull, they wouldn't have got a great deal of interest.

You see what i'm saying here? I'll spell it out a bit clearer:-

[size=150THE 2 RUGBY CODES IN THIS COUNTRY ARE VERY MUCH REGIONALISED, THEREFORE A GAME OF RL IN LONDON BETWEEN 2 AUSTRALIAN SIDES WOULD NOT GENERATE THE DESIRED LEVEL OF INTEREST!!!![/size

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deep seeded fear of origin is huge

maybe this is the problem

People do recognise this as a problem - it's just that it's not one that will be overcome by staging a game between two regional teams from Australia. Now if Russell Crowe wants to come over and promote international RL or WCC then fine, it would certainly help to rasie the profile. State of Origin would not. This is not fear of Origin - why would anyone fear it? As for War of the Roses, there is no passion for this and it would only serve to highlight the regional appeal of the game.

www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/2321 ... Barbarians all blacks vs barbarians the all blacks arent an english side so the barbarians must be. which level of RU competition do they play in because they arent in the GP?

www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/2321 ... Barbarians all blacks vs barbarians the all blacks arent an english side so the barbarians must be. which level of RU competition do they play in because they arent in the GP?

www.irb.com/newsmedia/news/newsid=2022477.html Hong Kong hosted a Bledisloe Cup match last year to a large crowd. now for those of you that dont know, the Bledisloe is played between australian and NZ, neither of which is hong kong

www.irb.com/newsmedia/news/newsid=2022477.html Hong Kong hosted a Bledisloe Cup match last year to a large crowd. now for those of you that dont know, the Bledisloe is played between australian and NZ, neither of which is hong kong

www.londonrl.co.uk/events/venuee ... nham-stoop australia vs NZ, this years quad nations. the venue, Twickenham Stoop

www.londonrl.co.uk/events/venuee ... nham-stoop australia vs NZ, this years quad nations. the venue, Twickenham Stoop

so russel crowe can raise the profile of RL games.

thanks, we are getting there.

I'm quite confident I have vision. I'd also like to think that know a little more on this subject than you would know Fredie.

By the way, I'm an Australian living in the UK.

yes i have actually

went to the CC final 2 years back st helens vs catalans

then went and watched around 10 games up north including NL1, NL2 and some SL games including the hull derby, wigan / saints at the JJB and bradford / leeds at odsal.

what that should tell you is that even a game between the two best RL nations only has a hope of filling a small stadium, why then do you think SoO which is played between to states of the world second best RL nation

would sell out the English National stadium and bring a new unprecedented level of of support in London for RL?

c'mon dont resort to that.

a few weeks back you were trying to talk about RL in australia like an expert and if you live in the UK you cant have kept up to date with those that live here.

lets just be consistant with how we argue here

because to be honest origin is much better than australia vs nz.

and i still think the RFL shouldve played a test match in london at wembley this year as well, thought not that one.

its a different topic but it shows you that at least im consistant with trying to grow and be ambitious

edit : the skills and level of RL in an orgin kill any test match football played.

I agree with your second point, and Im 50 - 50 on your first point, but even if SoO is a better brand of Rugby, i would say that more people would be interested in an international fixture rather than a fixture between two states. I reckon over 95% of sports fans in this country wouldnt even know what SoO was, never mind want to go watch it.

people dont know about it.

thats where the marketing comes in.

and because its different to what soccer or union can offer the public, people might say, wow, ill give this a chance

the kind of people that normally dont give RL a lot of time.

when you want to introduce new people to RL, its the best way to do it.

ive seen it happen year after year basically since its started where you go wow, this stuff is amazing.

if people like what they see, they might get hooked on the RL bug.

You went last year Dally?

Funny about that, I went to the last game that was held in Melbourne and that would have been near on 3 years ago.

I've been out of the country for 16 months.

Secondly, I still manage to see 4-5 games of RL a week through a mixture of Setanta and the net.

I am also still able to read just as much as I did before I left, this internet thing is amazing.

its a silly argument to use. just argue it on its merits.

most aussies i know say nine is s**t vs fox. you said it wasnt.

you havent been in aus for a bit.

therefore its cause you are overseas?

see where the agrument gets you.

poor debating.

see what i mean about poor debating.

in the words of fatty vautin, youve got nuthin

hindy, you stick to reading about NRL games, ill stick to attending them live.

round 3, 6 games already.