On Saturday night? Against Huddersfield?

Well there at least 4 cas fans going so thats a start.

So 4 Cas fans, Hudds will bring their usual 50, so could be looking at about 6054 - would we get over the 10'000 with that?

In 2008 Hull sold 30000 tickets compared to St Helens 15000, if we had played either leeds or Wigan it would have sold out. If you get any 2 of these 3 big clubs it will sell out.

That is about as likely as Damo emigrating to the moon.

The Marketing is one thing, but the Media is Key. Regardless of who reads or watches what....SKY have an agreement with the BBC for League Highlights and ITV for Union.

The BBC, in their infinite wisdom, run the SL show for the heartlands on a Sunday afternoon and the UK at 3am. The show has highlights of the 2 SKY games and snippets of any other Fri/Sat games.

Over on ITV 4, on Sunday at a reasonable hour, you can see every try from that weekends Union fixtures (including that afternoons).
Simple little things like either Sky slapping the BBC or taking away the rights would be a start. Surely it's in Sky TV's interest to get the game shown when there's a chance of a bigger audience?

The BBC have disappeared so far up their own innards they can look for ulcers

The treatment of SL is one amongst many many examples of a completely contra approach to their remit for public service broadcasting - binning R6 is another but I digress. I strongly suspect that if the roles were reversed and Auntie had Union they would put a really good show together and broadcast it countrywide at a reasonable hour; would ITV take league??

Further, I am not entirely convinced that media itself is the key - rather that the RFL have no real idea about how to make it work for them. A comparative study of respective press office activities would be insightful

What has any of this to do with SL attendances? Can you please start another thread to argue about Union!

Good call JB.
Could be a good weekend this for attendances, just hope Salford are doing a promotion or something.

They've got to do something, they're worse than ever

Back to the thread,

Bradford vs Wigan - On Sky, Bradford on the slide crowd-wise, 10k
Leeds vs Quins - Leeds in bad form, no away support, 13k
Hull FC vs Cas - Hull in good form, Cas bring a fairly decent following for this one, 14k
Salford vs Catalans - Two worst teams in the league. Salford have crap crowds and Catalans will bring 2 people, 3k
Wakefield vs Hudds - On Sky, Hudds take very few even to local derbies, Wakey crowds aren't exactly huge, 6k
Hull KR vs Saints - Saints in good form, Rovers back to winning ways, 9k
Wire vs Cru - Wire doing well, Cru bringing a few to this apparently, 11k

I think some people have estimated a few thousand over the top on some of these. 66k +/- 2k, so not far off 10k average but I don't think we can expect that with a 3k crowd in there. 3k should not be acceptable for top flight sport.

they'll be gone and I think they and their supporters realise it.
Might as well replace them now..

Not half as bad as some like to make out and improving year on year.

As I've pointed out on a couple of other threads:


We have an other sports forum to discuss other sports.

Crowds for association football or rugby union in New Zealand or anywhere else are distinctly 'other sport'.

I'm currently tidying the thread: after I do that and unlock it, please stay on topic.


A general warning: we're not going back to the days when the VT, which is a forum for discussing rugby league, was fully of dick-comparing contests talking about RU or Aussie Rules. As we seem to be getting more threads heading that way, I'll be clamping down on them.

So which team is likely to be the next to crash through the 10k average barrier?

Hull KR

Huddersfield

Les Catalans or someone else?

warrington



whoever gets the extension fastest from kr or cats.
maybe crusaders

Haha, crusaders, forgot bout them.

You never know, things are looking up atm for the Welsh club.

I noticed Hudds are stuck around the 7.5k and have been there for 2 or so seasons, do you think they can get close to 10k this year, they have a decent team?

They had good improvements on the back of GREAT season pass deals.
Decent team, I reckon they'll come in about 5th but with all those deals, if they haven't hit 10k yet losing a LOT of money then they never will imho

Hull FC v Castleford 13,352

Leeds v Harlequins 12,684

Bradford v Wigan 9,244

Salford v Catalans 3,022

Bradford need a new coach to bring some positivity back. That's horrendous for a crowd against a big name like Wigoon. What sort of crowd will they draw for Catalans or Salford?

Salford's crowds need to double if they are to remain in SL. I'll repeat it, how on earth are they still operating with income streams like that?

You can add Harlequins to that conundrum too. It'll be Salford that get booted though. Straight swap for Widnes.

Thats exactly what it should be.
I mean, people call the Crusaders but between them and Salford now, there's a galaxy.
Quins always have that expansion card and the nice new stadium to fall back on.

Interestingly though, if Salford moved to the trafford centre..would they be within 20 miles of any other club? I bet it would be close...

leeds crowds are poor

are the people of leeds just bored with winning SL or is the fact that utd will soon be promoted the difference

either way poor effort from the leagues biggest team

not if they get the new ground started

Morning Dally



Ah yes, the stadium building. Of course.

without wanting to turn this thread into another license debate...Quins application will be weaker this time, crowds have fallen further (therefore so will revenue) their performances have slipped (used to be outside bets for a playoff spot, now seem to be heading for the bottom 2/3) so apart from the ground and the location, I don't see what other criteria they meet. The RFL will probably introduce a last minute 'points for having quartered shirts' rule at the last minute though



Salford are in a worse state though, I can barely see them meeting any of the criteria, I can't understand where their crowds have gone. I know its a poor ground but the crowds have dipped the last few years...you can't even say its due to their form, as they have always struggled in SL (except for their one playoff finish)