Can you really see them finishing higher than any other team? I cannot see them winning one game next year if I'm honest.

Just who is arguing for Leigh and barrow in this thread ? , only you have mentioned them

, and we didn't play a load of illeagal immigrants

He's putting everything out there, so he can bat it back to himself on the same thread.

Toulouse is NOT an expansion area , they already play RL there and have done so for decades

This thread has been derailed by dally trolling.

Can we get back to the original point before it was ruined by our resident Aussie nitwit (and short attempted effort by his partner in crime fredie in a new "disguise"icon_wink.gif...

(Someone may have to tell me what it was!...)

Well here was my contribution early on

6 years guaranteed reserves?






you add as much to this debate as leigh did last year to NL1

CC Bears everytime

why use percentages, thats not what i asked. i asked number of clubs?

and of course how many lower level soccer sides does London support eg qpr etc

your heartlands are places like wigan, saints. none of the area around manchester, heck all the RL clubs there average under 10,000!

Leeds is as much soccer as RL.

adding up all those small places where RL is stronger would it even be 1 million?

widnes and bradford failed too.

on your stupid logic they shouldnt have been tried again







toulose had one of the highest crowd averages in NL1, with a crap team on the field and their first year of operation there. brilliant effort really.

Yeah I'd agree with that as well, it's pretty much what I said re: the TV deal not expecting much of an increase.

Is it a good thing? I think so. We can't grow the league anymore due to the standards of it as it is. It's already fairly diluted so we need to let standards improve first otherwise we'll have a low intensity league.

This also means Lewis is keeping his promise about promoting a club. Obviously he feels there IS an adequate replacement ready in the Championship out of the three who ARE eligible to apply, i.e. Widnes, Barrow and Halifax.

I do hope Sheffield, Toulouse and Whitehaven have a good year next year just to give Lewis a selection headache!

Oh dear. Can't handle the maths? Percentages tells a more relevant story than using just numbers. You see, if i earn £2m and give £1m away to disadvantaged Australians - i would have given 50% of my earnings. Quite generous no? You earn £8m and give £1m to needy unwashed northerners in the UK. Now, it would appear that you've given the same money as me. Strictly speaking you have - but i'm technically more generous because you've only given away 12.5% of your earnings. Geddit?

Of course you do - you're not stupid.

None of the area round manchester so oldham, salford, rochdale and swinton dont count to fit your logic?

And you werent talking about average crowds your were talking about th population or do we ignore that to suit your argument?

Leeds isnt a heartland area then?



as i've just said west yorkshire alone has over 2 million and with leeds, bradford, castleford, huddersfiled, wakefield, featherstone, hunslet, keighley, dewsbury, batley and halifax all playing in the county i think we can safely say that is a heartland area.

i asked a question, how many clubs.

if you arent interested in the question dont answer it.

simple question even for dummies,

as i said add up all the crowds for the RL clubs around manchester and it isnt 10,000. compare that to all the soccer clubs there.

in sydney its all RL as the dominant code, we dont share it with soccer.

you share much of yours with soccer and live with basically the scraps.

so we have changed it from population to average crowds just so we can suit your argument?



Notice you dont mention any of the other points

Don't be pathetic, Widnes didn't fold, they went into administration, and Bradford Northern rejoined a large 30 team league when they reapplied. Neither is even remotely the same as putting a team straight into SL, especially when unlike Bradford or Widnes they have no history of anything but almost the most miserable failure imaginable and with no fanbase. If they want to have a successful French Elite team then it might be worth considering, otherwise we may as well burn millions of RL money and play a team short in preparation for them folding almost immediately.

If we base things on your stupid potential argument we should shut down every NRL team apart from one in Sydney, Melbourne and at an absolute stretch Brisbane and replace them all with Chinese, Japanese and Indian teams. That's the level of your logic, all that matters is how good a team actually is, potential is an excuse for a bad team


They're still pure rubbish on the field and unless they make an effort they shouldn't be rewarded with a SL spot, SL is not an anti-British pro-French charity, it is a business and a sporting competition. When they can justify their place then I'm sure they will make a good addition, but there should be no racist exemptions, if they can't reach a grand final or win the NRC then tough their application should go straight in the bin.

very amusing.

if the population dont watch RL how can they be heartlands ?

are they some kind of silent majority?

What's amusing is you want to destroy SL by replacing teams people watch with far worse teams that noone would watch and yet apply completely different standards to the NRL, where the expansion teams have more chance of working.

There is not a shred of evidence that there's RL interest in Paris to support a SL team and lots of evidence it couldn't.

Toulouse might work one day, but they are clearly making no effort.

Can you please explain why a team making no effort to meet SL criteria and right near the bottom of the Championship (and that with exemptions from the overseas quota) should be let into SL? Remember them being French is not an argument, nor is their cities population as SL isn't a charity

Like paris you mean

Do you want to discuss things or are you just posting random words ?