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| I’d definitely have had Game 2 in London.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"This fixture had 24k at Huddersfield in 2016 and 44k at the Olympic Stadium London in 2015. 17k is a disgrace.'"
It's not a disgrace, the aggregate attendance for the home test series against New Zealand in 1971 was less than 15k.
It's just a downward trend together with SL attendances than needs to be addressed.
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"Yes these crowds are poor, but how many moaning on here went to either game or intend on going to any of the international games. It's ok blaming marketing and the RFL but when the General hardcore RL won't go then why should anybody else.
That said £50 for a centre line ticket is too much, around £35 and £25 for everywher else would be better, we don't want to short sell the games but we seem to be overpricing as well.'"
I was at both and the level of attendance and promotion of the fixtures DOES need addressing.
There was more atmosphere at Leigh than there was at Hull yesterday, apart form the last 15 minutes.
I know there are issues with KR fans never wanting to go to FC's ground but, where were the "missing" fans from the last international that was staged there.
It's a cracking ground, with decent facilities etc and there's no excuse.
Was it the kick off time, that clashed with the afternoons football ? with the next 2 fixtures on Sunday's maybe we'll find out.
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| Quote ="leedscat"No johnstone or lynne to face kiwis.fair on lynne never expected him to be but how does a centre who wasnt in the original squad get selected ahead of him
With regards johnstone find it a joke by far best winger we have ans to gwt droppwd after a man of match and hattick .to add to this myler gets in who was in middle 8s.its about how big the club
Think a big part of me will be cheering kiwis on this weekend'"
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The attitude of some fans is shocking, wanting your country to lose because a player from your club isn’t selected is unbelievable.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"The attitude of some fans is shocking, wanting your country to lose because a player from your club isn’t selected is unbelievable.'"
Yeah i have to agree there. Thought them comments will really poor from them particular posters. I wanted to see TJ picked but just because he wasn't shouldn't mean cheering on another country ffs !
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| Quote ="Kevs Head"I’d definitely have had Game 2 in London.'"
There was a drop off of 9k people between the NZ game in 2016 and the Australia game at London stadium a year later, with people complaining on here about the poor view and poor atmosphere.
So no guarantees they'd have got 35k again and London Stadium will cost far more to hire than the KCOM.
I'm supportive of playing games in London, but not convinced the crowd and profit would be any higher. The core issue is still the RFL not marketing games properly.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"The attitude of some fans is shocking, wanting your country to lose because a player from your club isn’t selected is unbelievable.'"
I nkow that not all fans wear any club colurs at International games but, there were very few Leeds fans knocking about and even fewer from "over the hill".
The vast majority were FC fans. Perhaps it's not just SOME Trinity fans that dont turn up if their own clubs players aren't picked
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| I know Sinfield is obsessed with the town of Leigh (God knows why) but why do the RFL stage an international game (midweek) and at a ground without a train station ?
3 years ago, the same fixture at Leigh (but on a Saturday) had an attendance of 8,380, when England narrowly won 84-4.
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| I’d like to see RFL bring some showmanship to bear. I would have had a Barbarians style “Rest of the World” team first playing France in France and then playing England instead of the one sided game at Leigh. The thought of this England team playing an entertaining side with the likes of Hastings, Barba, Murdoch Masala et al would make the head of marketing jump for joy. If only we had one.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"The attitude of some fans is shocking, wanting your country to lose because a player from your club isn’t selected is unbelievable.'"
Pure rubbiish i thought Johnson deserved a game, and as for the myler comment, well they moan when the national side is made up from top 5-6 clubs but them moan when a player from 9th placed club gets picked.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"I nkow that not all fans wear any club colurs at International games but, there were very few Leeds fans knocking about and even fewer from "over the hill".
The vast majority were FC fans. Perhaps it's not just SOME Trinity fans that dont turn up if their own clubs players aren't picked
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The game being in Hull then you would expect the majority of support to be from there, just because people did not have Leeds shirts on does not mean there was not plenty from leeds. Plus Leeds had the south stand opening and shirt launch with the game in the big screen. Leeds out marketing the RFL as usual.
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| Quote ="Kennedy"I know Sinfield is obsessed with the town of Leigh (God knows why) but why do the RFL stage an international game (midweek) and at a ground without a train station ?
3 years ago, the same fixture at Leigh (but on a Saturday) had an attendance of 8,380, when England narrowly won 84-4.'"
Even if there was a train you wouldn’t get far on a Northern Powerhouse train returning after 10. Yorkshire lads sitting next to us weren’t looking forward to drive home either. And also game was free online no incentive for mid week travel there.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"This fixture had 24k at Huddersfield in 2016 and 44k at the Olympic Stadium London in 2015. 17k is a disgrace.'"
Why omit the 23.5k at the KCom in 2015? Also, as asked earlier, where abouts did you sit yesterday?
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| Hopefully due to the England win for game 1 Anfield will be more packed out. No doubt a train strike will be announced for Sunday.
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"The game being in Hull then you would expect the majority of support to be from there, just because people did not have Leeds shirts on does not mean there was not plenty from leeds. Plus Leeds had the south stand opening and shirt launch with the game in the big screen. Leeds out marketing the RFL as usual.'"
So, Leeds had a stand opening event on the same day as a test match? Classic Rugby League issue of lacking goal congruence for short term self gain.
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"The game being in Hull then you would expect the majority of support to be from there, just because people did not have Leeds shirts on does not mean there was not plenty from leeds. Plus Leeds had the south stand opening and shirt launch with the game in the big screen. Leeds out marketing the RFL as usual.'"
So, maybe I was right about lack of Leeds fans ?
Poor form on their part to have the South Stand opening at the same time
You may even think that it was a deliberate snub by Leeds to have such an event clashing with an International.
And folk are complaining about Trinity fans putting club before country.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"
Both of these crowds are terrible. Neither Leigh or Hull should host an international again.'"
So it's their fault then?
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"So, maybe I was right about lack of Leeds fans ?
Poor form on their part to have the South Stand opening at the same time
You may even think that it was a deliberate snub by Leeds to have such an event clashing with an International.
And folk are complaining about Trinity fans putting club before country.
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Or clever marketing by Leeds aimed at local fans who could not or did not want to physically get over to hull, as the event started at 11.30am any fans could have done both are hull only around 75 mins from headingley. One that did not want to could hang around have a few beers and watch it on the screen. Leeds managed to organise that thing in a brewery that the RFL cannot.
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| Quote ="Psychedelic Casual"RFL, if you’re reading, give me £35k/year salary and I’ll do your marketing on my own and do a better job than your whole organisation has done for years!'"
I wouldn't take on that job for less than £170,000 PA and I'd also want bonus targets on attendances.......£35,000 PA is a graduates starting salary at a decent London Agency......I suspect that's the problem at the RFL.........they are paying peanuts.
Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"Why omit the 23.5k at the KCom in 2015? Also, as asked earlier, where abouts did you sit yesterday?'"
Very good questions.......I await the answers with baited breath
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| Quote ="Kennedy"https://amp.theguardian.com/sport/2018/oct/28/england-crowd-estimate-second-test-new-zealand-anfield-rugby-league?__twitter_impression=true&fbclid=IwAR316A7jdzuq5WuKxeNdx5sqIZslcMDXPblVJ6haU7w7RRyZmcIoeBLOXAc'"
The Million Fans estimate for the RLWC 2021 was downgraded to 750,000 recently.....I can see this number being further downgraded in the coming months as Rimmer becomes more and more out of his depth.
31 games will need 24,200 a pop to hit the 750,000.......if we can't get that for any of these test matches this series then god help us in 3 years time.......and I repeat, Hearn isn't the answer
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"as asked earlier, where abouts did you sit yesterday?'"
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| Quote ="Call Me God"The Million Fans estimate for the RLWC 2021 was downgraded to 750,000 recently.....I can see this number being further downgraded in the coming months as Rimmer becomes more and more out of his depth.
31 games will need 24,200 a pop to hit the 750,000.......if we can't get that for any of these test matches this series then god help us in 3 years time.......and I repeat, Hearn isn't the answer'"
The impression that they would be 'happy' with 25k at Anfield is scary. Shows a complete lack of direction and ambition. We may as well have sold out the DW for a lot cheaper ground rent if we are throwing in the towel promoting the game.
As for the World Cup, can only hope that Hearn or the team from 2013 get involved or as you say we will face low crowds. We won't even get the benefit of France playing games at home as the government has quite rightly said their funding is to be spent in the UK only.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"I was sat in the South Stand'"
At Headingley on the open day?
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| Talking about the rfl nd the fact they are crap I ordered my tickets for anfield Liverpool for Saturday game so booked hotel for 2 nights come hom Sunday I now live don south when they changed it to Sunday I so it on Facebook if not I would not have known tryed to ring wast of time could not get through so emailed that ne’er I got was sorry you did not get the email so thanks to them have to book another night in Liverpool thank god I am retired so do not have to worry about work
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