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| Well, he won't be bringing on Cayless this week, he's either been punted or is injured.
Our bench is very small this week...
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The Raiders have a monster bench. I expect us to try and run them out of gas by the 60th minute..
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| Quote ="EA"Well, he won't be bringing on Cayless this week, he's either been punted or is injured.
Our bench is very small this week...
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17.Daniel Fitzhenry
The Raiders have a monster bench. I expect us to try and run them out of gas by the 60th minute..'"
Is Gibbs still a liability when it comes to discipline?
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| Hasn't been as bad this year, but it's still early lol.
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| Quote ="eels fan"Hasn't been as bad this year, but it's still early lol.'"
eels fan did you ever see Brett Kenny play in your lifetime.
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| Quote ="cjhatesunion"eels fan did you ever see Brett Kenny play in your lifetime.'"
I've followed the eels since the mid 70's, Bert was one of the best ever, they all rave about Lewis, but it was Bert that kept him out of the Aussie side and that Parra backline from 81-86 was extraordinary.
Brett Kenny, the only guy to score 2 tries in 3 successive Grand Finals, he was a freak.
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| Quote ="eels fan"I've followed the eels since the mid 70's, Bert was one of the best ever, they all rave about Lewis, but it was Bert that kept him out of the Aussie side and that Parra backline from 81-86 was extraordinary.
Brett Kenny, the only guy to score 2 tries in 3 successive Grand Finals, he was a freak.'"
To be honest he is my 2nd fav player of all time,my fav player is Ellery Hanley.
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| Quote ="cjhatesunion"To be honest he is my 2nd fav player of all time,my fav player is Ellery Hanley.'"
Are you sure you're not a Pie Eater ?
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| Quote ="nickcat0"Are you sure you're not a Pie Eater ?'"
F..k off you cheeky b@stard,you know very well i'll be at Knowsley Road on Good Friday singing "come on you Saints".
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| Quote ="The Curtism"Is Gibbs still a liability when it comes to discipline?'"
As else said, not this season so far.
And as he also intimated, it will happen..
Gibbs has been up there with our best this season.
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| Quote ="cjhatesunion"eels fan did you ever see Brett Kenny play in your lifetime.'"
I saw him probably 30 or 40 times. He was the only 5/8 we put up against Wally who gave as good as he got. But unlike Wally, Kenny was that good in the NSWRL.
If Brett Kenny had been a Queenslander, Wally Lewis would have been Queensland's lock.
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| GO ROOSTERS...........!! nobody likes us we dont care!
bulldogs, eels, tigers, dragons, broncos would probably be the biggest teams in terms of support and have the longest bandwagon
never a dull moment in the nrl and its dam near impossible to call a premier/ playoff contenders at the start of the season
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| Quote ="EA"I saw him probably 30 or 40 times. He was the only 5/8 we put up against Wally who gave as good as he got. But unlike Wally, Kenny was that good in the NSWRL.
If Brett Kenny had been a Queenslander, Wally Lewis would have been Queensland's lock.'"
I love Brett.
But........you wish, EA!!!
1986 Kangaroos ring a bell, my friend?
Both players close to their prime and there was no doubt about the 5/8th and the centre in that team.
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| Storm!
Greg Inglis..... enough said.
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| Quote ="Gijou"I love Brett.
But........you wish, EA!!!
1986 Kangaroos ring a bell, my friend?
Both players close to their prime and there was no doubt about the 5/8th and the centre in that team.
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Nah, like every tour back then (yeah, I'm looking at you Terry Fearnley) the team was picked politcally.
Wally was #1 at rep level, no argument. But if Kenny had been a maroon, I reckon Wally would now be talked about as the greatest lock of all time instead of the greatest 5/8 of all time.
Let's be honest, Wally for the Broncos and Gold Coast was decent but he never got even close to the heights he got to in Origin or Tests.
Kenny was that good no matter which jumper he was wearing.
It's all personal opinion anyway I guess, I'll just never see Wally as better than Bert overall. Reps, yes. Overall, no.
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| Quote ="EA"Nah, like every tour back then (yeah, I'm looking at you Terry Fearnley) the team was picked politcally.
Wally was #1 at rep level, no argument. But if Kenny had been a maroon, I reckon Wally would now be talked about as the greatest lock of all time instead of the greatest 5/8 of all time.
Let's be honest, Wally for the Broncos and Gold Coast was decent but he never got even close to the heights he got to in Origin or Tests.
Kenny was that good no matter which jumper he was wearing.
It's all personal opinion anyway I guess, I'll just never see Wally as better than Bert overall. Reps, yes. Overall, no.'"
Your Sydney bias in favour of your clubs is starting to show, mate.
Lewis dominated football in Brisbane as well. At a time when the Brisbane competition was still very good.
He won premierships with Valleys and Wynnum - the former when they weren't the strongest team in the competition in my view.
Wynnum-Manly circa 1984 would have beaten any Sydney side around.
They beat a Souths side featuring Belcher, Meninga and Lindner (to name a few) 42-8 in the Brisbane GF of 1984, by playing sparkling champagne football that was unmatched in the country at that time.
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| Quote ="Gijou"I love Brett.
But........you wish, EA!!!
1986 Kangaroos ring a bell, my friend?
Both players close to their prime and there was no doubt about the 5/8th and the centre in that team.
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You could also point to the '82 Tour ..... ring a bell, my friend........no Test jumper for Wally
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| Quote ="nickcat0"You could also point to the '82 Tour ..... ring a bell, my friend........no Test jumper for Wally
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You might have noted the reference to their primes...
Nice try alfie. Stick with the comedy. LOL.
Reviewing their entire careers, Lewis peaked at 1984 and Kenny at 1985 as individuals.
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| Quote ="Gijou"You might have noted the reference to their primes...
Nice try alfie. Stick with the comedy. LOL.
Reviewing their entire careers, Lewis peaked at 1984 and Kenny at 1985 as individuals.'"
I did notice the reference to "their primes", but a career should be judged as a whole, not as a couple of years.
To be honest, I was just playing Devil's Advocate, as I have Lewis down as the 2nd best player I've seen, and at stand off in my all time XIII. However there were times when Kenny was "top dog", and I can understand someone who places Kenny ahead of Lewis.................they were that close.
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| Quote ="nickcat0"I did notice the reference to "their primes", but a career should be judged as a whole, not as a couple of years.
To be honest, I was just playing Devil's Advocate, as I have Lewis down as the 2nd best player I've seen, and at stand off in my all time XIII. However there were times when Kenny was "top dog", and I can understand someone who places Kenny ahead of Lewis.................they were that close.'"
You can only judge a player by his best years.
And when you compare Kenny's to Lewis's - the King is in front.
As history will show.
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| Quote ="Southport Saint"Get a mind of your own you lovin prick.'"
Really no need for that mate, the OP has started a reasonable discussion.
I keep an eye on the Titans, for the reasons stated by an earlier poster (watching a new team create their own history, good squad of players etc.)
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| Quote ="Gijou"Your Sydney bias in favour of your clubs is starting to show, mate.
Lewis dominated football in Brisbane as well. At a time when the Brisbane competition was still very good.
He won premierships with Valleys and Wynnum - the former when they weren't the strongest team in the competition in my view.
Wynnum-Manly circa 1984 would have beaten any Sydney side around.
They beat a Souths side featuring Belcher, Meninga and Lindner (to name a few) 42-8 in the Brisbane GF of 1984, by playing sparkling champagne football that was unmatched in the country at that time.'"
Sure, there's a bit of bias, I did see plenty of the great Parra side of the early-mid 80's and I didn't see any Brisbane side play.
Anyone would have struggled to beat Parra or the Dogs from 81-86. Hell, Australia would have struggled to beat them. Maybe its the same for Wynnum.
I can't really comment on the Brissy comp back then, we didn't get it in Sydney. All I can say is based on what I saw of Lewis and Kenny over their careers, Kenny is a gnat's pube in front for mine but I have absolutely no dramas with anyone having The King in front.
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| Been a Warriors fan from debut season
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| Quote ="EA"Sure, there's a bit of bias, I did see plenty of the great Parra side of the early-mid 80's and I didn't see any Brisbane side play.
Anyone would have struggled to beat Parra or the Dogs from 81-86. Hell, Australia would have struggled to beat them. Maybe its the same for Wynnum.
I can't really comment on the Brissy comp back then, we didn't get it in Sydney. All I can say is based on what I saw of Lewis and Kenny over their careers, Kenny is a gnat's pube in front for mine but I have absolutely no dramas with anyone having The King in front.'"
I have seen all of the Sydney comp between 1978-1985 (inclusive).
I've got that Brisbane 1984 GF on disc, if you ever want to have a look...
Peter Jackson also played for Souths, in addition to Meninga, Belcher and Lindner. Still got done 8-42.
Re- Lewis circa 1984. He had the best year you could ever have - that was why it was compared to Lockyer's from a few years ago...
Wally Lewis 1984:-
Won Brisbane Grand Final with Wynnum (captain)
Won Panasonic Cup Final with Brisbane (beating Canterbury and Parramatta in early rounds) (captain)
Won Origin 2-1 with Queensland (captain)
Won Ashes with Australia 3-0 (captain)
Club, State and International.
The greatest five-eighth to play our game.
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| I always find Poms tend to support whatever club has the nicest looking shirt or whatever one they win on ebay.
A lot support Melbourne Storm because 'Neighbours' is shot down there.
Quite a few seem to support Brisbane Broncos too because the maroon shirts remind them of the colour of their skin after yet another cheap package holiday to the Costa del sol
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| Quote ="Barry_McKenzie"I always find Poms tend to support whatever club has the nicest looking shirt or whatever one they win on ebay.
A lot support Melbourne Storm because 'Neighbours' is shot down there.
Quite a few seem to support Brisbane Broncos too because the maroon shirts remind them of the colour of their skin after yet another cheap package holiday to the Costa del sol'"
You really are a tw@ sometimes bazza.........and there's no need to bitter because your team are worse than quins RL this year
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