I agree.

How? Who is going to sign for them and how are the Superleague clubs going to accept them?? THEN who is going to bankroll them? Argylle is saying he won't put many $Millions in again. As he says this, he's trying to get on the Melbourne Storm board of directors. It's only them talking about starting again 2021, why do people fall for all the utter garbage they put out.

Way back when it started they were going to bring us Canadian players and TV deals and everyone who thought "that's great" seem to have forgotten they didn't bring us a single TV dollar nor any Canadians save poor old Quin Ngwata, who was never given much of a game just told to stand there as the token canadian. And I mean everyone. Check the TRL site!! Every man jack of them forgets what Perez promised for entry to the game here and didn't deliver. Some are worried Perez's Ottawa may be affected by TWP's collapse.

What they don't get is there is no Ottawa. Not a single backer turned up to Perez's launch. Whats that saying "fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me??"

Sorry if it wasn’t clear. I DO NOT think they are good to go, hence the quotations around what they (TWP) are trying to sell. As I said, demote them, like would happen to any other team, then if they do stick around and want to compete in the Championship then MAYBE that could be considered.

The club which replaces Toronto in the 2021 Super League needs to be given the 'go ahead' as soon as possible so as to have time to reinforce their squad up to Super League standard.

Please don't apologise, your being too polite.

There is really nobody to demote. Argyle has told all the players to all go and get new clubs, so that's them gone. The staff will all go once the players have gone, and Argyle is looking to Melbourne.

TWP have no assets to dispose of, so when you and others talk about them as a "club" they aren't a club. There's no assets, they don't own a ground, there's no junior sides or academies, nobody plays RL in Canada and now nobody watches RL in Canada. Not even this year let alone next year.

Even I am at it now. In a few weeks there will be no "they". Argyle has just said he would like to be involved in TWP next year....

He WAS TWP so it's all PR nonsense, smoke and mirrors, jam tommorrow,the rubbish we have had to put up with for four years. And we still have people talking about Ottawa and New York as real clubs. It's all very surreal but it's all down to Nigel Wood who legitimised this utter charade.

Mate - there is virtually nobody left to "stick around" if you can name anyone who isn't leaving, let me know.....

Who may that be?

Featherstone, London, Leigh, Newcastle, Bradford & Widnes all aspire to Superleague.

None of them are prepared enough to go up now. None of then are prepared for fighting out a competition to see who is promoted.No such competition is planned for the autumn anyway.

Pick one "on paper" like licensing and the others will go apoplectic and may resort to their Lawyers. Don't we see what a horrible horrible mess Argylle has caused, who on earth in SL will let the man anywhere near the game here ever again, let alone Perez and the next phoney NA club.

I only have one solution. Stick Catalans in the Championship with Toulouse, and go with a 10 club English superleague next year............

YES it's harsh, but they are only guests and Gaucsh has basically aped Argylle this last few years and stuck two fingers up at SL bosses . Sadly the guest has to go......

I have just read on sky sports fevatherston would like to have a go why not say yes and let them play HKR in the 2 games that Toronto would have played

A few people have gone quiet on here now , it was always a load of garbage and they have got a get out clause due to the virus which has only brought an earlier demise to what would have happened sooner or later . Anyhow i guess regular posters will be on here shortly apologizing to Donnyman

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Steph will probably blame Jeremy Corbyn for Toronto’s plight.

he'll probably latch on to other basketball players name

Featherstone should be give the roll due to being runners up and then allowed to stay for 2021, shame for the other clubs but for me its the only argument, then next season two promoted, also drop Toronto for dropping out and give them minus 12 points if they declare going bust.

They are not ready now but should be the 12th team in the competition next year as defeated grand finalists or London’s relegation should be rescinded and they should be the 12th team next year.

No way should Toronto be in any league their time has now come and gone.

After Covid RL needs some stability with a world cup on the horizon as well, no North American teams for 2021 let’s get the UK clubs sorted first...

Don't get too far ahead of yourself.

Unless Argyle walks, Toronto will be fine.

was you a violin player on the titanic in a former life

They are as good as gone !

Wake up and smell the coffee .

Have you a polite apology for Donnyman ?

I never had you down has a Dreamer

Toronto will no doubt have repercussions to deal with, but they will continue to exist unless Argyle walks away.

I think when looking at who is “fit” to replace Toronto next season we need to keep out expectations extremely limited. The promoted team has never really fared all too well with a couple of exceptions.

I think Widnes stand a good shout amongst others if you look at certain criteria. But if it isn’t Widnes and Toulouse, Leigh or Fev get the nod, then I’m all for it. As long as Toronto do not retain their status next season

The pandemic has been a terrible thing but eventually the game needs to restart, and kick on. I wish no financial troubles to any Toronto player and back room staff but as a club who have personally withdrawn from the competition, they need to go

Happy to buy their way through league one and the championship at the expense of other clubs, happy to throw million dollar contracts at SBW but not willing to buy your way through survival for the remainder of the season.
It hasn’t been sustainable.

I can imagine a number of super league clubs have took a knock over the last few months. Not ideal to restart and if they withdrawn themselves, the competition would get cancelled. That’s why they need automatically relegating. Like many have said already on here, TWP for me don’t see set up to continue in 2021. Many hurdles ahead

This.

He has already stated they will be here next year and rightly so

This is the correct outcome as neither Leigh, Fev or Bradford have warranted being handed a place in SL.

Another dreamer do not cry but I can not see Toronto playing any were and not in super league that’s for sure

If there is to be no relegation this season, it doesn't really matter whether they fulfil their fixtures, so providing assurances are given for next season where's the problem, that's if you believe what donnyman wants you to believe that after next season along with the dragons they'll be kicked out of super league anyway, and if it's true that the championship clubs won't play again this season, what criteria do you use to select a side for promotion.

Even as a Bradford fan I agree with you. Popping an unprepared Championship side into SL, however worthy, isn't sensible and should only be seen as an absolutely last resort. 2020 is about muddling through, helping the clubs bank balances etc and I'm certain that this shouldn't involve muddying the waters with Championship teams. Perhaps my fellow fans at this level should take it on the chin and accept promotion aint happening. Now I admit that's more of a blow for the best among us (I don't include Bradford in that as we weren't going to be troubling the promotion race) but it's logistically a bad idea IMO.

To be honest, when it comes to Super League, I'd play the games but historically not regard 2020 as a full and proper season in the official records. I'm sceptical that the champions of SL 2020 will have earned the right to be regarded in the same way as everyone who won it before and after.

There you have it, (certain criteria) there's quite a few clubs you could choose from if you pick certain criteria for a certain club, but picking criteria to give every club the same opportunity isn't that easy without showing favouritism.

I can't speak from experience personally but I doubt there are many foolish multi millionaires in this world, this chap has put his money where his mouth is and as much as he's more sway than you and me he won't be able to buy his way through a governments legal system, half his players have no visas therefore no right to even be in the country, he's simply no players and very little room or time to do much about it, maybe he's cut his losses and gone, or maybe he's doing something about it behind donnymans back, time will tell I suppose.

First of all I can imagine all super league clubs and all the other league clubs below them have all taken a knock over the last few months none so more than Toronto who now find that not only have they had no income at all unlike the rest of the super league clubs propped up by Sky, they have now lost half their team through government red tape, not a huge fan of Toronto myself but surely they deserve a bit of leeway.

It’s not an attack on Toronto, just the situation at hand and how to handle it. I wouldn’t throw a championship club in this season at short notice. But plenty of time to get ready for 2021.

I believe if the salaries and cap were not as much as they currently are at Toronto then resuming the season would have been a lot more manageable personally.

Others may think differently but I can see if it was Wakefield, Hull KR or Salford in this position, I’d like to see how much lee way would be given. I’ve never had faith in the RFL. Shockingly ran and has been for years. Be interesting to see how this pans out (Not particularly blaming the rfl for this situation just so that’s clear), just interested into how they handle it

Certainly not as much as Leeds Wire Saints and Wigan would have that's for sure.