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| Quote ="dally messenger"history lesson.
to get the decision to go to summer approved, Sky provided the RFL with a massve TV deal of 87 million / 5 years
a part of this went to clubs outside SL to pay off debts. despite this payment these clubs still are financially poor.
SL clubs dont get enough money to forgo some for clubs outside SL
if clubs outside SL cant show the RFL they can progress, theyve got no one to blame but themselves'" 1.winter spring summer autumn,what a ucking stupid arguement to push.2 i bow to your better knowledge but did it also go to SL clubs to pay off there debts and they are still in debt.3 you've just confirmed that SL and rugby league are now 2 completely different entities
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| Quote ="j.c"1.winter spring summer autumn,what a ucking stupid arguement to push.2 i bow to your better knowledge but did it also go to SL clubs to pay off there debts and they are still in debt.3 you've just confirmed that SL and rugby league are now 2 completely different entities'"
without the SL clubs going forward RL would be effectively dead in england.
the game needs 14 or 16 clubs like wigan/hull fc/leeds.
they get the fans, media, big bucks etc.
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| Fk me Dally, 7 pages since yesterday.
When you hijack a thread you REALLY hijack a thread don'tcha?
Might I asuggest going outside now and then and getting some vitamin D would be good for your health and your outlook?
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| Quote ="dally messenger"without the SL clubs going forward RL would be effectively dead in england.'"
It already is on a terminal decline.
Quote ="dally messenger"the game needs 14 or 16 clubs like wigan/hull fc/leeds.'"
Yes but isn't going to happen due to the myopic, narrowminded, blinkered view of the game by mainly the SL clubs but also by the RFL
Quote ="dally messenger"they get the fans, media, big bucks etc.'"
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"BIG BUCKS" [/u Of course they do and then throw it all away on never was, never will be , past it, crocked, holidaying, pension seeking overseas players who give nothing back to the game.
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"FANS"[/u Yeh the recession carries on, the costs go up and people vote with their feet. "The professional" game is so predictable that I believe that interest is slowly waning. Even the clubs with "loads of fans" are not financially viable.
The game has sown and now it is "reaping the benefits" of its labours.
A game that cannot attract the attention of the mass media except in small soundbites.
A game that hasn't a clue how to market and promote itself.
A game that simply dosn't have a coach and player development system that is worth the paper it is wrtten on.
A game so fragmented and out of control by it's "governing body" that they are being taken for a ride.
A game with a percieved lower international profile probably than darts.
Oh and for those who may not be aware.
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THE SEASON STARTS IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS !!!!!!![/size
But for crying out loud don't let the media know on a daily basis .!!!
It's a secret
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| Quote ="Dico"=#FF0000They were cheated in 06, Wigan should have gone down.
Its a different management now from 04 and 06 isnt it?
aand they finished bottom in 08, wait for it, because they knew they were safe and blooded youngsters.
Shoestring budget, plenty of youngsters, watch them fly when they get this new stadium.
Night all'"
Who allowed that ' Cheating ' to occur and why ?
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| Quote ="Grendel"Fk me Dally, 7 pages since yesterday.
When you hijack a thread you REALLY hijack a thread don'tcha?
Might I asuggest going outside now and then and getting some vitamin D would be good for your health and your outlook?'"
i prefer girls mate, sorry
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| Quote ="Starbug"Yes it got them relegated twice and a bottom finish in 3 SL seasons , very effective'"
Hate to be pedantic but they didn't finish bottom in 2006, Catalans did.
Please, continue.
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| Quote ="Starbug"You mean HKR , yes they have run the club differently , they have tipped between a half and a million quid a season in to make sure they are competitive , very different to being in the NL's
So instead of being maybe £ 500,000 in debt they are 3 million , and that is with the SKY money'"
I believe our total debts are about 200k iirc.
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| Quote ="Grendel"Fk me Dally, 7 pages since yesterday.
When you hijack a thread you REALLY hijack a thread don'tcha?
Might I asuggest going outside now and then and getting some vitamin D would be good for your health and your outlook?'"
Dally is probably the only pale white man born and bred in a sunny country!
Go outside. Get a tan fella!
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| Starbug, the RFL had to let 06 happen because they simply couldn't afford a legal battle with Whelans lawyers over whether you could spread payments onto the next seasons wage bill.
I think this topics gone so far off track it's pointless continuing.
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| Quote ="Dico"No but claiming that Perpignan is a 'heartland' in the sense that Bradford or Widnes are is also daft. My dad was over there on holiday when they were playing their second playoff game against Wigan last year, no one knew the game was on.
It really is an expansion club'"
Maybe not like Bradford or Widnes but certainly more heartland than York or Doncaster.
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| Quote ="Hedgehog King"Maybe not like Bradford or Widnes but certainly more heartland than York or Doncaster.'"
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| Quote ="Dico"The USA has played RL for 50 odd years, are they heartland?
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No, they haven't. They might have played the odd game here and there and the occasional tour with gridiron converts now and then but to claim that they have been playing rugby league for 50 years is absurd.
The vast majority of that time had no rugby league at all played on American soil.
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| Quote ="dally messenger"weve had RL in london for 70 years (on and off) before fulham
so fulham were a "heartlands" type club
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Again this is absolutely absurd.
There were two clubs early on that lasted one season and Highfield played there briefly aside from that for 95% of those 70 years, there was no rugby league in London.
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| Quote ="pyeman"I believe our total debts are about 200k iirc.'"
You are a HKR fan now are you ?
If your not going to pay attention
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| Quote ="peter parker"Hate to be pedantic but they didn't finish bottom in 2006, Catalans did.
Please, continue.'"
I didn't say they finished bottom 3 times , I said they got relegated twice and finished bottom once in 3 SL seasons , if your not going to pay attention
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| Quote ="Dico"Starbug, the =#FF0000RFL had to let 06 happen because they simply couldn't afford a legal battle with Whelans lawyers over whether you could spread payments onto the next seasons wage bill.
I think this topics gone so far off track it's pointless continuing.'"
There is no way a sports controlling body should have been in that position , any decent lawyer could have put clauses into the operational rules to prevent it , bottom line is the RFL didn't want W1g4n to go down , the other SL clubs didn't want W1g4n to go down , Cas were sacrificed , but no doubt helped from there on in
And you wonder why I have so little faith in the people who are supposed to run our sport FAIRLY for all
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| I don't think they did.
I think the conspiracy theory's are as daft as they come.
People with nice expensive lawyers will always find loopholes, the governing body should have took them on imo
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| Quote ="Dico"I don't think they did.
I think the conspiracy theory's are as daft as they come.
People with nice expensive lawyers will always find loopholes, the governing body should have took them on imo'"
There was no ' loophole ' , it was just that nobody had ever considered that somebody would do it , which considering the London Bronco's situation a couple of seasons earlier is absolutely shocking
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| Quote ="Hedgehog King"Again this is absolutely absurd.
There were two clubs early on that lasted one season and Highfield played there briefly aside from that for 95% of those 70 years, there was no rugby league in London.'"
as absurd as saying peripgnan is heartlands when it was dominated by union for 30 years.
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"Dally is probably the only pale white man born and bred in a sunny country!
Go outside. Get a tan fella!'"
ask roy boy what i look like
hes a friend on facebook
ive got photos in the gym with my shirt off and abs showing
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| Quote ="dally messenger"ive got photos in the gym with my shirt off and abs showing'"
You sexy Aussie mo fo.
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| Quote ="dally messenger"ask roy boy what i look like
hes a friend on facebook
ive got photos in the gym with my shirt off and abs showing'"
Have you got any with you wearing your AFL shirts?
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| Quote ="littlerich"
You sexy Aussie mo fo.'"
my abs arent THAT good, but im working on it
im off to the gym in an hour.
not bad effort for a sunday!
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