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| Quote ="PopTart"I'd be quite happy if he took us to league leaders trophy and a challenge cup final before it 'tailed off'.
But also, I wonder where the naysayers are on this one. Why is it such a travesty that Carter didn't interview anyone for Applegarth's appointment (even though he'd only done it a year earlier with Poching) but it's OK to just give the job to Powell?
Double standards me thinks.'"
It should be advertised and interviews should be done with whoever applies.
While Powell resume is decent and he’s a big step up from Applegarth he may not have a personality that the Owners can work with.
That said, you’re surely not comparing Applegarth with Powell are you?
If you simply HAD to make a coaching appointment without advertising or interviewing with MA & DP as the only candidates I know which I’d be appointing
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| Quote ="The Avenger"It should be advertised and interviews should be done with whoever applies.
While Powell resume is decent and he’s a big step up from Applegarth he may not have a personality that the Owners can work with.
That said, you’re surely not comparing Applegarth with Powell are you?
If you simply HAD to make a coaching appointment without advertising or interviewing with MA & DP as the only candidates I know which I’d be appointing'"
I'm sure it's been said that the (new) owners have talked to Powell.....
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Lets get that Powell is poop bandwagon rolling.
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Can’t believe after the season we’ve just had there are negatives to Powell ! It feels too good to be true .. lol
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| Quote ="The Avenger"It should be advertised and interviews should be done with whoever applies.
While Powell resume is decent and he’s a big step up from Applegarth he may not have a personality that the Owners can work with.
That said, you’re surely not comparing Applegarth with Powell are you?
If you simply HAD to make a coaching appointment without advertising or interviewing with MA & DP as the only candidates I know which I’d be appointing'"
I'm not saying it's the wrong decision. His cv is better than anyone I can think of thats available in UKbut some said that Carter made a mistake not interviewing on Mash's appointment but those people seem to not be bothered with this.
Which makes me think its not the process they don't like, just the coach.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I'm not saying it's the wrong decision. His cv is better than anyone I can think of thats available in UKbut some said that Carter made a mistake not interviewing on Mash's appointment but those people seem to not be bothered with this.
Which makes me think its not the process they don't like, just the coach.'"
How do you know he hasn’t interviewed others?
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| Quote ="PopTart"Absolutely right......but not to have a review of how they look. You can go on other sites for that I'm sure.'"
You mean like Sheridan's OnlyFans site?
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| Quote ="cocker"Can’t believe after the season we’ve just had there are negatives to Powell ! It feels too good to be true .. lol'"
Wait till Matthew Ellis sits in the hot seat.
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| After all the coaches we had since Kear, Powell is in a different league.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I'm not saying it's the wrong decision. His cv is better than anyone I can think of thats available in UKbut some said that Carter made a mistake not interviewing on Mash's appointment but those people seem to not be bothered with this.
Which makes me think its not the process they don't like, just the coach.'"
Again, no one has said “just give it to Powell”. But out of him and Applegarth, I think most would go for DP.
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| I can't think of a better appointment than Powell. I never thought for a minute we'd have a chance of getting him. I can't wait for the new season now.
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| A lot of people jumping to conclusions - we haven’t even got new owners yet, I think that bridge needs to be crossed first!
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| I know this isn't the general consensus and i am an outsider looking in but i feel sorry for Carter and Applegarth. Has the appointment worked? Clearly not but he hardly had a great squad to have a go at it with. After trying so many coaches, Applegarth was highly rated in British Rugby League circles and obvioulsy thought it was worth a shot. Carter probably looked at our (Wigan's) model of nourishing and then appointing coaches from within (O'Loughlin next) and thought 'We can do that' As i say though, it hasn't worked (not this season anyway) and the relegation has happened. I think Wakefield have to be lauded for punching above their weight for so long and having a little period of having a right good crack at it when you had Toupou etc. You have been that little plucky club for so long and now you are investing into the infrastructure of the stadium etc to join the bigger clubs. To be relegated now after making so many strides off the field seems unfair but obviously performances on the field are key. As disappointing as it is for you now i think you probably need to drop a level to re-set the club and will hopefully be back within a year replacing Castleford who just sit on their hands with absolutely no intention of improving anything. Year after i want to see York up there in an expanded league. Cas can stay where they (potentially) are until they do something about their crumbling stadium. Chin up Wakey fans, the battle is lost but the war rages on. You will be back and it will be better next time.
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| Quote ="BarnsleyGull"I'm sure it's been said that the (new) owners have talked to Powell.....'"
Read the thread, I was answering PTs posts
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| Quote ="Cherry_Warrior"I know this isn't the general consensus and i am an outsider looking in but i feel sorry for Carter and Applegarth. Has the appointment worked? Clearly not but he hardly had a great squad to have a go at it with. After trying so many coaches, Applegarth was highly rated in British Rugby League circles and obvioulsy thought it was worth a shot. Carter probably looked at our (Wigan's) model of nourishing and then appointing coaches from within (O'Loughlin next) and thought 'We can do that' As i say though, it hasn't worked (not this season anyway) and the relegation has happened. I think Wakefield have to be lauded for punching above their weight for so long and having a little period of having a right good crack at it when you had Toupou etc. You have been that little plucky club for so long and now you are investing into the infrastructure of the stadium etc to join the bigger clubs. To be relegated now after making so many strides off the field seems unfair but obviously performances on the field are key. As disappointing as it is for you now i think you probably need to drop a level to re-set the club and will hopefully be back within a year replacing Castleford who just sit on their hands with absolutely no intention of improving anything. Year after i want to see York up there in an expanded league. Cas can stay where they (potentially) are until they do something about their crumbling stadium. Chin up Wakey fans, the battle is lost but the war rages on. You will be back and it will be better next time.'"
From the outside looking in that’s a fair enough assessment but IMO, and the facts bear it out, Carter isn’t qualified or experienced enough to make that kind of judgement and Applegarth wasn’t ready and might never be!
I get the comparisons but Sean Wane and Matt Peet had served a full, varied and long apprenticeship before being offered the big chair. Even then they had a mentor at the club who they could consult with and bounce off. They also had resources at the club in terms of infrastructure and personnel as well as an established quality squad of players.
The comparison is fatally flawed for all those reasons but most crucially the coaches ability to coach at that level. Those who have enough experience to make an informed judgement and knew Applegarths limits knew it was doomed to fail.
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You are a St Helens fan. Stop pumping these guys for information so that you can post it on the Wigan forum.
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| The new owners have pulled out,the end of our club is near
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| Quote ="BOJ042"The new owners have pulled out,the end of our club is near'"
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| On the wind up I presume. Either that or its the unlikely situation where news has broke in Australia before Normanton.
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| Quote ="BOJ042"The new owners have pulled out,the end of our club is near'"
Well they hadn’t at 7pm yesterday (Thursday uk time) from what was being said by JM at the Cathedral service .
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"Well they hadn’t at 7pm yesterday (Thursday uk time) from what was being said by JM at the Cathedral service .'"
They're 12 hours in front in Australia so they get the news before us. BoJo has just sent me the half time score from tonight's game.
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| Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"They're 12 hours in front in Australia so they get the news before us. BoJo has just sent me the half time score from tonight's game.'"
Have we scored
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| Quote ="alegend"Have we scored'"
Not yet, but the effort is there and the lads are having a dig. Batch has just scored his 4th though.
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| Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"Not yet, but the effort is there and the lads are having a dig. Batch has just scored his 4th though.'"
From a forward pass though! Bloody Kendall.
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| Anyway back to players. Jai Whitbread to Leeds is sounding like a thing.
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