Nail on head!

You found this out when and from whom?

As you've been trotting this out for over a week now and both Bradford and Hull KR only got their feedback a little over 24 hours ago.

Please feel free to quote where I have "trotted that out" before. I haven't given any kind of detail previously.

Check back as far as you like.

You'll see it was some time ago when I first said that the clubs' would be given a 2 year licence.

Did I make a good guess, or do I know more about this than you'd like to think I do?

Hmmm.

"Supercilious", lol.

Given you’ve dodged the question I’m going with the former.

Anyway to avoid yet another thread being derailed by Wakefield fans.

I wonder what made up the “extensive consultation” taken by RFL to come to this decision?

Made me chuckle that. A two thousand page application made on the back of a fag packet. Forty five staff servicing 70 academy lads.
More homework required Dboy.

Uncanny how everything I guessed was correct.

Weird.

I realise it's a difficult thing to do for a Bulls fan, but just accept that I am far better connected to the detail than you, and that you were wrong. Go on, do it, admit it - it would be an iconic moment.

I won't be sharing sources - stupid of you to even ask.

Oh dear.

Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.

Is your keyboard broken???

Do you actually believe what you just wrote?

2000 pages?

You think you have 70 academy players, and that they are serviced on a better than 2:1 ratio?

Cas tigers don't even have 45 staff, never mind working in the academy.

No - I’m right.

Regarding staff..... https://www.castlefordtigers.com/mobile ... hp?id=7447

Regarding staff..... https://www.castlefordtigers.com/mobile ... hp?id=7447

Regarding application..... https://www.castlefordtigers.com/mobile ... hp?id=7427

Regarding application..... https://www.castlefordtigers.com/mobile ... hp?id=7427

Regarding production line..... https://www.castlefordtigers.com/mobile ... hp?id=7434

Regarding production line..... https://www.castlefordtigers.com/mobile ... hp?id=7434

Quote ="Tigerade"Regarding production line..... https://www.castlefordtigers.com/mobile ... hp?id=7434'" It's a piece written by Cas to try and justify their academy - and it fails! It boasts "Michael Shenton, Adam Milner, Nathan Massey, Oliver Holmes, James Clare, Greg Eden and Liam Watts" = not a single one of them produced under the last academy licence, issued in 2016. Cas academy is FILLED with talented youngsters and has been for years. That virtually none have been brought through to the first team by the club is a travesty.

Quote ="Tigerade"Regarding production line..... https://www.castlefordtigers.com/mobile ... hp?id=7434'" It's a piece written by Cas to try and justify their academy - and it fails! It boasts "Michael Shenton, Adam Milner, Nathan Massey, Oliver Holmes, James Clare, Greg Eden and Liam Watts" = not a single one of them produced under the last academy licence, issued in 2016. Cas academy is FILLED with talented youngsters and has been for years. That virtually none have been brought through to the first team by the club is a travesty.

Everything you guessed came true? Ha ha ha you even admitted on the last page that you didn’t give any detail until after the announcement today.

Your exact words were “the wider rugby league community know why those clubs were rejected” and you still got it wrong.

Great work Nostradamus.

Fact is no one was party to the behind closed doors discussions over the last couple of weeks. We can draw our own conclusions from that. I am quite cynical and think that this whole thing was political and to avoid the risk of ending up in the court of arbitration for sport the RFL had to give those clubs elite academy licenses. This way Ralf can save face and kick the can down the road but that’s just my opinion. I’m certainly not going to try and dress that up as fact and claim I’m in the know.

You crack me up dboy you’re a good ‘un ha ha.

I didn't give any detail about the 3 clubs specific failings until the last page (though Cas not producing any players was pretty much obvious to all anyway).

It's quite a few days since I said the clubs would receive a 2 year licence.

I think I have also written somewhere, that in the case of the Bulls, it will all have been "someone else's fault".

Uncanny, eh?

Obviously reading isn’t one of your strong points.....
“However, over the past five years, Castleford’s Academy has been involved in bringing through ten players that have gone on to represent the club at Super League level. These names include Tom Holmes, Connor Fitzsimmons, Brandon Douglas, Jake Trueman, Calum Turner, Jacques O’Neill, Lewis Peachey, Sam Hall, Brad Graham and Bailey Hodgson.”

It’s a few days since you said you thought it would be fairer if Hull KR got a 2 year licence.

As for your comment re. Bulls you’re trying to pass off my opinion as 1 fan with no way of knowing what discussions went on as proof of what exactly?

Real nosey Parker stuff this.

Unsure about the Bulls detail, but thought they would get a reprieve, as 2 sports were available to fill.

Cas do not actually deserve a reprieve, but by backing down to 2 clubs, they have made it impossible to do otherwise.

“Cas do not actually deserve a reprieve”.

Why not?

The names don't "include" those products - that's it! In 5 years!

Embarrassing.

Holmes = ave. 4 games per season
Douglas = 2 games 2016-18
Fitzimmons = 2 games in 2017 - now in Cumbria.
Trueman not even a Cas product! Signed for Cas in January and played first team in June.
Turner 15 games - now at Newcastle
Hall = 1 game
Graham = 1 game in 2020

''Castleford Tigers believes that the Club is currently fourth in the table for Super League appearances made by Academy products who are currently playing in Super League, this includes both at the Tigers and at other clubs"

So lets get this straight - you reckon Cas Tigers are lying?

More Cas propaganda.

They are wrong. Plain and simple.

And in the last academy licencing period - which is what is assessed - Cas are bottom.

I do believe the RFL really should publish that data.

Didn’t they also claim about 10 years ago they would get a super league worthy stadium in order to get a licence?

come on this was the most stupidest decision ever, its ok have a select few clubs having elite status but some families can't even afford to travel long distances to travel to elite academies, the more clubs that have their own the better for me it just doesn't make sense, maybe they should just look at the coaching certificates that get handed out as its them that are there to teach and select the cream

as for Rimmer the sooner he goes the better

No they didn't make such a false claim, they agreed to try to work towards this. Leave out the baiting....

Some clubs that got new stadia got an awful lot of help from their councils. Castleford and Wakefield got no help at all through no fault of their own