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| Quote ="Xykojen"Players not been paid today per Twitter, got to feel for them most out of the whole horrible situation, bills to pay and mouths to feed'"
Indeed.
When you take out the club rivalries and internet "banter", this is what matters.
Players, staff, kids on scholarships etc and their families, this is what really matters.
Of course, plenty of businesses go pop and it's the same for them but, if we dont spare a thought for some of these families, what kind of people are we and what about the supposed RL family.
One just has to hope that whoever comes in (assuming someone does), properly steadies the ship and doesn't dream of the "big time" too quickly.
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| Unfortunately the sympathy & donations from the RL "family" run thin when the business has failed more than once over the last few years. There's a bunch of creditors who are also due to lose money again due to the inability of Bradford to operated as a successful business.
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| Quote ="GUBRATS"But you can see the contradiction here surely , ' success ' to Bradford involves being in SL , which will require more cash than Kevin finds for Batley
I've met Kevin several times BTW , top bloke'"
Success for Bradford at the moment is the Club surviving.
Trying to emulate past glories has been the downfall of many sporting entities. They are no longer one of the 'big' clubs but could be one of the better ones in the Championship. Of course, this will not only need a new owner who keeps to a realistic budget but also (some of) the 'fans' losing the chip off their shoulders and realise that the 'mickey mouse' league they find themselves in is their true (current) level.
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| If you ask the Bulls fans, I'd guess most aren't even that bothered about being SL that much. All we want is a stable club that we can turn up and watch play every week.
The club has a great academy system and we were all set to start bringing our home grown players into the first team and build from the ground up.
It's not our fault that we've had a string of morons take charge of the club over the last ten years or so.
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| Administrator rumoured to be going to see players Tuesday 3/1 am .
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| Quote ="Nothus"If you ask the Bulls fans, I'd guess most aren't even that bothered about being SL that much. All we want is a stable club that we can turn up and watch play every week.
The club has a great academy system and we were all set to start bringing our home grown players into the first team and build from the ground up.
It's not our fault that we've had a string of morons take charge of the club over the last ten years or so.'"
That's just not true though is it. This myth keeps getting recycled but its clearly not true. We heard it when P+R was being brought back that being involved in struggle at the bottom would attract fans. Attendances dropped like a stone. We saw it when they were relegated, that fans would stick around to see a winning team and not the losing one they saw in SL, attendances dropped like a stone, now its if only they were 'stable' in the lower leagues fans will turn up in droves. They wont.
People literally seem surprised that when Bradford got in to trouble, giving them less money, deducting points from them, introducing massive instability, seeing them relegated, giving them even less money and massively less visibility hasn't produced success. These people are so locked in to this craziness we are now seeing people argue that Bradford's ultimate demise and complete closure will allow them to start again and the fans will come back in droves. Its like a doctor scratching his head and wondering why shooting his patient in the legs and torso hasnt cured them, and thinking maybe shooting them in the head will work.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"That's just not true though is it. This myth keeps getting recycled but its clearly not true. We heard it when P+R was being brought back that being involved in struggle at the bottom would attract fans. Attendances dropped like a stone. We saw it when they were relegated, that fans would stick around to see a winning team and not the losing one they saw in SL, attendances dropped like a stone, now its if only they were 'stable' in the lower leagues fans will turn up in droves. They wont.
People literally seem surprised that when Bradford got in to trouble, giving them less money, deducting points from them, introducing massive instability, seeing them relegated, giving them even less money and massively less visibility hasn't produced success. These people are so locked in to this craziness we are now seeing people argue that Bradford's ultimate demise and complete closure will allow them to start again and the fans will come back in droves. Its like a doctor scratching his head and wondering why shooting his patient in the legs and torso hasnt cured them, and thinking maybe shooting them in the head will work.'"
How is any of the above relevant to the part of my post you quoted in bold?
You think it's a myth that Bulls fans would want a stable club over being back in SL? I disagree.
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| players starting to leave the club now, if they are not being paid i assume the club is in some sort of breach of contract allowing them a move (or is it a clause in the contracts once a club is in admin?) Anyways Clare gone to leigh and possibly Welham looking to move on as well, and i would guess more will follow. Sorry state of affairs
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| Quote ="Nothus"How is any of the above relevant to the part of my post you quoted in bold?
You think it's a myth that Bulls fans would want a stable club over being back in SL? I disagree.'"
Because its the same myth you are perpetuating. At what point do we hit a level where it gets put to bed? Admin number 5? 2k averages? 1k?
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| Quote ="the artist"players starting to leave the club now, if they are not being paid i assume the club is in some sort of breach of contract allowing them a move (or is it a clause in the contracts once a club is in admin?) Anyways Clare gone to leigh and possibly Welham looking to move on as well, and i would guess more will follow. Sorry state of affairs'"
Players should be well within their rights to leave especially when the administrator is a massive joke and an absolute disgrace continually fanning about getting paid a hefty fee I imagine whilst the players have bills to pay and mouths to fees.
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| Quote ="Willzay"Players should be well within their rights to leave especially when the administrator is a massive joke and an absolute disgrace continually fanning about getting paid a hefty fee I imagine whilst the players have bills to pay and mouths to fees.'"
I think you misunderstand the role of an administrator.
He may have been fanning (sic) around for a few weeks- but the Bulls board have been doing so for years -which is the reason the administrator is there in the first place. How this sorry state of affairs can be blamed on the administrator is beyond me.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"That's just not true though is it. This myth keeps getting recycled but its clearly not true. We heard it when P+R was being brought back that being involved in struggle at the bottom would attract fans. Attendances dropped like a stone. We saw it when they were relegated, that fans would stick around to see a winning team and not the losing one they saw in SL, attendances dropped like a stone, now its if only they were 'stable' in the lower leagues fans will turn up in droves. They wont.
People literally seem surprised that when Bradford got in to trouble, giving them less money, deducting points from them, introducing massive instability, seeing them relegated, giving them even less money and massively less visibility hasn't produced success. These people are so locked in to this craziness we are now seeing people argue that Bradford's ultimate demise and complete closure will allow them to start again and the fans will come back in droves. Its like a doctor scratching his head and wondering why shooting his patient in the legs and torso hasnt cured them, and thinking maybe shooting them in the head will work.'"
The only way Bradford actually achieved success was by spending what they didn't have.........and your patient didn't help by continually loading the gun!
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| Quote ="the artist"players starting to leave the club now, if they are not being paid i assume the club is in some sort of breach of contract allowing them a move (or is it a clause in the contracts once a club is in admin?) Anyways Clare gone to leigh and possibly Welham looking to move on as well, and i would guess more will follow. Sorry state of affairs'"
Have they been sold, to generate revenue (to help prolong the administration period) or, just walked away ?
Either situation is fully understandable as everyone needs to put food on the table and the administrator will need revenue to buy some time.
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| Rumours are we've just been liqudated
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Brilliant stuff - many others from within our game could learn from this type of leadership.... These types of thing are exactly how great cultures are built - forget the short term gains that could be made from a few cheapo signings, build foundations, principles and a 'way of being' that people will buy into long term.
The RFL should take note.
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Brilliant stuff - many others from within our game could learn from this type of leadership.... These types of thing are exactly how great cultures are built - forget the short term gains that could be made from a few cheapo signings, build foundations, principles and a 'way of being' that people will buy into long term.
The RFL should take note.
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| Totally agree Superted. We have been offered Chris Whelham and and ex-tiger James Clare by all accounts.
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| Good on Cas that - certain other teams could certainly take a leaf from their book.
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| Yeah, why sign them now when they can be signed for a bargain in a fortnight
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| Liquidated. Guess all players contracts are null and void like when we lost the MPG
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| Quote ="Mr Dog"The only way Bradford actually achieved success was by spending what they didn't have.........and your patient didn't help by continually loading the gun!'"
Another myth.
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| Quote ="LifeLongHKRFan"Liquidated. Guess all players contracts are null and void like when we lost the MPG'"
I guess so close to the new season it's going to be difficult to join another club. Their best bet is to hope someone can salvage something from the wreckage
Sad day for the game.
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| Quote ="Bull Mania"Rumours are we've just been liqudated'"
That is very grim news indeed, for the fans, players and staff.
Where it leave future RL in the city and Odsal, with the RFL holding the lease, who knows.
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| Would the RFL be brave enough to "promote" Toronto???
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| One of many things I don't understand is, how can a "New" club be given a twelve point deduction, also how can a "New" club start their life in the Championship?
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