He's definitely a fake account. Damn, I have accidentally repeated your mistake of adding an extra ac and o

yeah, just the same scenario this one. Well done and congratulations

You really were dropped on your head as a small child weren't you

As I replied last night before being banned for calling Rovers a Joke, yes I was. YOu on the other hand have probably been kicked repeatedly in the head. Maybe even by one of your players.

good post.

Banned for the truth...mental times



Bet we all know who banned you

In that case I feel for you.

Because it happened about 2 years ago. And at the time i said it was a stupid concession to lazy short-term thinking. We have too many overseas players. There is no need for us to have the same amount this season as last. Wigan have too many.

There are no rules in the operational rules which i would let clubs not abide by in this circumstance. Hull KR have made their bed by trying to use loopholes to squeeze in an extra overseas player by using a passport of convenience. Im not sure why we should be granting dispensation to expedite this.


You think 10 overseas players, with 6 counting on the quota isnt stockpiling? you think that taking one of the quota whilst injured replacing him with another, then taking that player of the quota and adding the previous one isnt developing a carousel.

I have never said i would be happy if it was exceptional, you have simply made that up. I have said it is exceptional as in not common, not exceptional in deserving dispensation.

And again, its a very simply concept. Hull KR have (or are planning on) breaking the rules. They have apparently asked for dispensation to do so which it has been indicated they will be given. If they werent breaking the rules, why would they need to ask for or receive dispensation?



I have no interest in your nonsense false dichotomy. Your either/or situation simply doesnt apply in the real world.

Things that are uncommon dont by their definition of simply being uncommon deserve discussion of the RFL board with a view to granting dispensation. By being uncommon (or exceptional) it simply means it doesnt happen very often.

Things which do deserve discussion by the RFL board with a view to granting a dispensation would be things which were exceptional as in so far beyond the realms of normality as to represent a situation not covered by the existing rules. This situation clearly is not one of those.

Now i cant be the first one to have taught you this, but to sum up what seems to be your confusion and why you keep bringing up your nonsense false dichotomies, as Robert Plant said, "'Cause you know sometimes words have....Two meanings"

No agenda and no criticism of you - apologies if it came across like that. I was just intrigued that you thought Rovers had been [uforced[/u into the Mason arrival and deregistering of Dobson. IMO they've taken advantage of Dobson's injury to get Mason here and playing. No compulsion to do it, just that the timing worked for them.

No it didn't happen 2 years ago, it happened this year. Both Leeds & Wigan have signed overseas players whilst "circumventing the rules", why aren't you as annoyed at that as you are at this?


But Hull KR are abiding by the rules. They have effectively sacked 1 player and signed another. What's the problem?



No because you fundamentally (or deliberately) misunderstand the RFL's statement. By a carousel of players it is meant that they shouldn't be de-registering and re-registering players on a regular basis.
Also which 6 players are those that count on the quota? I'd love to know especially since Dobson is no longer a Hull KR player.


Ok Smokey whatever you say. You accept it's exceptional but it's not exceptional. Fair enough lad.


Again, and you've been asked this several times without answering it, which rules are Hull KR breaking? If you can't answer it stop insinuating that Hull KR are in breach of RFL Operational Rules.


Come on Smokey stop being deliberately thick. You were even the first one on this thread to quote the rule FFS.





Ok so whether Hull KR have or have not broken the rules does not apply in the real world? Seriously what's wrong with you?


I'd agree. Which is why I'm confused by your stance on this. You say it's exceptional, you say it's never happened before, yet you then refuse to accept it should be considered by the board. Kindly point me to the rule that covers a players' delayed receipt of a passport after being granted it, then taking the place of someone else in the team who wishes to return to the team at a later date.
If you can't show me the rule that covers this then you must surely admit it should be discussed by the RFL board as an exceptional circumstance.


Why not? How does this situation bear resemblence to the RFL statement on the Operational Rule and the rule itself?


Very nice. Yet not in the RFL Operational Rules they don't. The words mean exactly what they say. So please either point out which rule Hull KR are currently breaking or shut up.

No it didnt. Brent Webb hasnt counted as a non-fed trained player, as has no player who was here prior to 2008 since 2009, Which is 2 years ago. Pat Richards hasnt counted as a quota player since he arrived 5 years ago. There has been no change in either of their status this year.


There is no problem if this is what has actually happened, rather than HKA have de-registered a player making him a free agent but having him contracted to rejoin the club and be re-registered and given dispensation to break the rules to do so

If Dobson isnt re-registered as a HKA player this season as per the rules i have no issue with the RFL or HKAs actions in this matter.

Its not difficult to understand, i pity you that you find it so hard.

rule C1:4:7

it seems you confused yourself again. The false dichotomy is what doesnt apply in the real world. I.E your idiotic suggestion that there are only two possible outcomes, When in fact there are more.

How can you agree but not understand that simply being uncommon isnt a reason for the RFL to debate giving dispensation?

rule C1:4:7 adequately covers it.

The rule states that no overseas player can be re-registered in the same same season. I see no reason why expediting the availability of another overseas player, who cant currently play because of the amount they already have, is a good reason for granting dispensation.

Yet in the RFL operational rules it states nowhere does the circumstances need to be 'exceptional' so all your debate about how it being uncommon means it is exceptional and so means the RFL need to consider it is just nonsense. The RFL can consider granting such a dispensation in any circumstances they wish. But just because they can, doesnt mean they should, or that they are above criticism for doing so.

'The rest of your kind'?

You really underestimate the public you are so desperate to get through the turnstiles and into Caravan Park dont you?

And being compared to Rob Crossland is not a compliment

Quote ="DemonUK"Watch HKR train this Saturday.......................for a fiver!!!!!!!!!!!! Seriously www.hullkr.co.uk/article.php?id=1611'" You couldn't make it up could you? Talk about milking the idiot cow for all it is worth. They will be charging 'fans' £2 to get into the shop next and £3 for a carrier bag that says 'Hull KR are all Willies'

Quote ="DemonUK"Watch HKR train this Saturday.......................for a fiver!!!!!!!!!!!! Seriously www.hullkr.co.uk/article.php?id=1611'" You couldn't make it up could you? Talk about milking the idiot cow for all it is worth. They will be charging 'fans' £2 to get into the shop next and £3 for a carrier bag that says 'Hull KR are all Willies'

Shock horror, a club with a new signing with a huge profile within the game use said signing to raise cash to help their youth development scheme to send youngsters to Australia to develop. I may have to return my season pass in disgust.

So the club have started a development scheme they can't afford and are now fleecing their gullible fans to try and save face. However you look at it, it is disgusting they have the nerve to charge people to watch training sessions and attend press conferences, what next, charging for autographs.

Exactly.

If the club cared about the fans one little bit they would REQUEST that any fan wishing to watch the session makes a donation to the trip.

In other words fans who are out of work or struggling at this difficult time should not expect too much.

If the club want to send players to Australia pay for them, this isn't BARLA

Wahh! Wahh! Wahh!
Pick your dummy up son.

Yes you are correct it isn't BARLA.
As such it is a proffesional rugby league club which can charge for whatever it likes.
Should we be giving away free shirts as well for the poor souls who are out of work?
I am out of work BTW due to redundancy but you don't see me bitching about it stange that eh anyone would think you have other motives

Micheal Dobson stood with Justin Morgan during training at NCP today.
He seems far from pished off about it all.
BTW I have no idea what Joel Clinton is doing in the background.

No motives here, I just cannot believe a so called Community club would be charging to watch a team train and I am not the only one.

And if it is such an important trip then why not just get a sponsor for each player to pay for it?

Like I said, it is milking the idiot cow at it's best.

You lot will be paying for squares of toilet roll inside craven park soon. Dont worry though, each square will have 'WM' embellished on it so it is a piece of Willie memorabilia



And if you really are out of work I would be more inclined to be working on my CV than fecking about on a message board defending people who couldn't care less

My CV is sorted and letters are sent thanks although seeing as it is 7.15 PM on a saturday your comment was more than pointless so well done with that.
You see I have 19 years unbroken working and I have always kept my CV upto date not that it is any of your fecking buisiness.

Didn't realise the time, it has been one of those days. I have had to hide at the back of my house in a room with no clock because I have a crazy Fiance smashing up bedroom furniture in preparation for a load of Joiners coming on Monday.

Glad the letters have been sent and good luck. It cant be easy getting work these days, especially when you are up against so many of those Brazilian Lady Boys!!

Must have raised a fortune with all those spectators paying to watch.

His name is Michael Dobson, he is not a spectator Mrs B

My point is that Micheal Dobson not being contracted to HKR seems to be a bit of a red herring now IMHO.