Nothing, they paid us...



Why? What does it matter?



The clubs got their expenses paid.



Why are you obsessed with numbers? Do you have a little book and a ruler like Adrian Mole?

Why are you obsessed with how it looks?

Do you think someone watches the game on TV, things that was a great game but I'm not going there were too many empty seats





Then you might just want to go back to school.

it would only go up against the league2 and league1 playoff finals, hardly huge competition, the championship one is the only one people bother with and that is now back on the monday again.

I'm not suggesting SKY have undersold us on the day/weekend, their coverage was good today IMO. I just mean that even if the magic weekend was a sellout with 7 amazing games we'd still only be getting minor coverage due to the sheer number of sporting events this weekend.

I can't speak for individual posters but there is strong evidence to suggest that the game's governing body is of the opinion that it works something like that. If it didn't it wouldn't judge clubs on their ability to fill stadiums to a minimum of 40% of their capacity, would it?

And there is plenty of evidence above that you're an idiot

Impressive, you've won me over with your intellect there.

It wasn't hard, people with a modicum of intellect can tell the difference between a standard club game and an occasion where we spread the game to a new area.

And lets take this another way, how comfortable do you think somewhere like Elland Road would be if you had to spend 6 or 7 hours in there jammed in so it looked good on TV, no where to move, facilities that couldn't cope, an event like this needs room.

Being a Championship fan who has never been to the Magic weekend before and whose team aren't involvedI was highly sceptical.

However, this weekend has been highly successful:

First of all to answer the questions about attendances, last year there were just derby games - Saints V Wigan, Leeds V Bradford, Hull V Hull KR, Cas V Wakey, Quins V Catalans, they are bound to be well supported, this year there was only one derby and the other games were well supported in a smaller stadium.

It's so refreshing to see fans of all RL clubs (not just SL clubs either) mingling together in a city when it isn't a cup final, I say keep it, Cardiff is more ideal for the fans and the games (closed roof an all) but Edinburgh is a much nicer city.

I think the football season finishes on the 24th may. The following weekend would be the whit bank holiday weekend. Therefore it would certainly be possible to stage a 'Magic' weekend at a premiership football ground.

To be honest, I'd love to be traveling to Cardiff or Edinburgh to watch my club and enjoy a weekend of complete RL. It's something different from the norm and would complement the season nicely. Whether it does anything for expansion is very debatable. The crowds look embarrassing on TV, compared to our RU rivals, and it does little to promote the game imho. Perhaps they need to ensure it is promoted better locally with free tickets for locals etc?

Someone didn't get the 'MM is a failure' memo. Quote [size=150Salford 16-24 Harlequins: Spelling out the magic[/size Source: Scotland On Sunday Published Date: 03 May 2009 By Ian Morrison at Murrayfield Salford 16 Harlequins 24 A BRILLIANT sunny day saw Murrayfield at its best for the visit of the Super League's Magic Weekend ... Purdham converted to claim a 100 per cent record with the boot on what was a successful day – and not just for him.'" scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/ru ... 5230323.jp

Someone didn't get the 'MM is a failure' memo. Quote [size=150Salford 16-24 Harlequins: Spelling out the magic[/size Source: Scotland On Sunday Published Date: 03 May 2009 By Ian Morrison at Murrayfield Salford 16 Harlequins 24 A BRILLIANT sunny day saw Murrayfield at its best for the visit of the Super League's Magic Weekend ... Purdham converted to claim a 100 per cent record with the boot on what was a successful day – and not just for him.'" scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/ru ... 5230323.jp

A half empty stadium either gives a bad impression or it doesn't. In fact if one of the primary aims is to 'spread the game' surely that's even more reason not to have a negative impression created.



You appear to be mistaking me for somebody who either has an issue the idea of MM or its location.

I'll leave it to those who know what the goals of MM are and have access to sufficient data to make a judgement to asses its success or otherwise. If you had simply sought to argue against the assumption that the figures quoted are negative rather than attempting dismiss discussion around attendance as irrelevant I'd have done exactly the same as I have with the rest of thread, ignored it.

On the specific issue of Elland Road there are few sports venues I have visited that I would be less inspired to spend 6-7 hours in.

You can tell who has not been there are moaning on here about the size of the crowd!

Only in League do we care more about attendances than the quality of the event/games!

Quite wright.

The game's governing body will be happy then as they achieved a capacity of 44%.

Away from the obsessive microcosm of rugby league fora, most normal people have the common sense to recognize context. Getting a not too disimilar number of fans to travel a couple hundred miles, to a neutral venue, in an area the game is not as popular, than would have watched the same at home is not unimpressive. As is being claimed. It is in no way comparable to playing in an empty stadium at home, for which most fans only need to travel a couple miles.

Michael.

The game's governing body will be happy then as they achieved a capacity of 44%.

Away from the obsessive microcosm of rugby league fora, most normal people have the common sense to recognize context. Getting a not too disimilar number of fans to travel a couple hundred miles, to a neutral venue, in an area the game is not as popular, than would have watched the same at home is not unimpressive. As is being claimed. It is in no way comparable to playing in an empty stadium at home, for which most fans only need to travel a couple miles.

Michael.

Quote ="af"Someone didn't get the 'MM is a failure' memo. scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/ru ... 5230323.jp'" oh dear your so missing the point! scotlands daily papers will like mm, their economy is 10 million quid better off! hardly likley to say its a waste of time are they?

Quote ="af"Someone didn't get the 'MM is a failure' memo. scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/ru ... 5230323.jp'" oh dear your so missing the point! scotlands daily papers will like mm, their economy is 10 million quid better off! hardly likley to say its a waste of time are they?

Sooo, out of interest, where did all those organised parties hire their coaches from? Local companies perhaps? Did they buy their tickets for the train locally, ensuring local rail services remain strong? Or take a taxi from a local firm to the station?

Did they spring for a new replica shirt for the trip, or buy some new clothes from their local high street

Small, simple minds will live forever in a small simple world, and you will deserve it.

On both days during the first games the stadium looked empty, not surprising really, but it filled up for the later games and honestly, it didn't look so bad at all.

I think the event should have stayed in Wales for this year at least. If the main purpose of the event is to increase awareness and boost spectator number/interest in the game then the combination of Celtic's first year in SL and the Magic weekend in Cardiff I think, would have combined for a more powerful effect.

This would have been worth sacrificing the extra revenue that is made from the event being held in Scotland.

All moot anyway as it has moved. So, on the same lines, I think it should stay there until the first Scottish Championship side is up and running and the RFL should actively be seeking partners to establish a team North of the border.

I can only presume the vast majority of Magic doubters didn't get of their fat a*ses and go



The publicity for this event in Edinburgh was brilliant, every pub, every bus stop, every taxi, every train, the hotel, the restaurants, everyone was talking Rugby League.

It was a fantastic effort by genuine fans to bring Rugby League to Edinburgh, an it worked. It really felt great to be part of promoting my sport

Chanting with Catalan fans on the Streets of Edinburgh FFS, it doesn't get any better



Well done the RFL and the SRU







Then I come on here and read such dross from people who really can't be bothered, and thats what it's about. All the doubters just can't get off their backsides to give it their all for their sport--pathetic

No you're right, they aren't likely to say its a waste of time, by all accounts that Scottish Rugby journo actually enjoyed himself and I have no doubt that hoteliers, bar owners and many other retailers did too.

So does that all answer your silly questions back on page one ?




Exactly.

I didn't go for a myriad of reasons, but I don't feel the need to have a go at something that is clearly enjoyed by a large number of RL supporters, and is a commercial success - what sort of fool would ?

7 very entertaining games.

Full TV coverage.

The opportunity for "new" customers to sample the "product" at a very competitive rate.

Those who didn't watch it or go to the games are the ones losing out.

One of the things that isn't quantifiable, at the moment is "eyes on the box" which is the ONLY thing SKy TV are concerned about so that advertising rates can be sorted.

If in their eyes it has been a worthwhile exercise then it has paid off and when it comes to renegotiating the TV contract ( most of RL funding comes from that I reckon direct;y/indirectly) then it an advantage.

Mr Graham is clearly not very bright, best thing we can do as a sport is shut him up



As far as i'm concerned he should be dragged before the RFL for his comments, absolute disgrace for a player earning a great living that otherwise would struggle to stack shelves



I want people to speak that represent my sport, clearly this muppet doesn't

At the minute i have no idea whether it was a success for Sky, the scottish economy, the Rfl, the scottish public or the face of RL in Scotland.

I do know that me and my family had an absolutely FANTASTIC time and that for atmosphere and meeting other fans it is 10 times better than the CC.

yesterday i enjoyed the Giants game, then went to sit behind the posts with a lot of Hul fc fans , groups of Cas and Leeds fans and a gorgeous girl from HKR.

Then went to sit with all the Catalans fans in the west stand for their game.
Before sitting between the HKR fans and the Wire fans in the East stand.

ABSOLUTELY FANBLOODYTASTIC DAY

I hope you eventually found a set of fans willing to let you stay.

I am neither really for or against MM, however if the event was 'dry' I bet no-one would turn up.

It's just a 2 day drinkathon.