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| Quote ="Big Picture"Do you mean to suggest you'd be happy seeing RL fall behnd other sports financially and lack the means to hold onto its' best players?'"
i think he did
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| Quote ="Alice's Phallus"and sometimes I am very serious. '"
Tis true. I recall recently having a sensible conversation on a thread with you last week. It was a refreshing change from the norm, although i did think that i'd ingested some mind altering drugs
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| The RFL has made clear it can add numbers to Super League as well as subtract. But it almost certainly doesn't want an odd number total left because it doesn't want byes every week. Odd numbers means one club has at least one week when it is not earning gate money. Even numbers mean every club is making gate money every week.
So unless the RFL is planning to subtract one or three clubs from SL in 2012, expect an even number, almost certainly two, to be added in the 2011 decisions.
But remember as I said at the beginning, Richard Lewis/the RFL announced last year that in future there is no limit on the number of clubs that can be admitted to Super League each franchise decision year. That is why I was asking the fans: if you had the realistically optimum number of additional clubs over the next two rounds of licenses, who would you like to see have a license, from both Anglo Celts and continentals, up to a maximum of six?
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| Quote ="bluesox4evaaa"IF BEING IN SUPER LEAGUE IS ONLY ABOUT TV DEALS AND SPONSORSHIPS YOU CAN STICK IT UP YOUR A**E'"
Believe it or not, professional sport is a business and businesses require money to function!
If you didn't want it to be about money, you wouldn't support a professional team.
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"Believe it or not, professional sport is a business and businesses require money to function!
If you didn't want it to be about money, you wouldn't support a professional team.'"
are fax pro?
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| However bye weeks make sense. it gives player time to recover, this leads to reduction in the chances of "wear and tear injuries"
this means clubs can actually use the players they pay and not see their wages sat on a physios bench
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| Quote ="Catalancs"are fax pro?'"
Do they pay their players?
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"Do they pay their players?'"
i wasn't having a go mate, i was asking a genuine question.
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| Quote ="chubbs1981"However bye weeks make sense. it gives player time to recover, this leads to reduction in the chances of "wear and tear injuries"
this means clubs can actually use the players they pay and not see their wages sat on a physios bench'"
I agree that wear and tear injuries are a problem. The NRL has it too, and they play less games than Super League does. But the NRL clubs say that while the bye weeks give the players a physical rest, they are often bad because they put clubs off their psychological intensity, and often the players underperform the week after the bye.
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| Quote ="Big Picture"Do you mean to suggest you'd be happy seeing RL fall behnd other sports financially and lack the means to hold onto its' best players?'"
yes
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| Quote ="chubbs1981"However bye weeks make sense. it gives player time to recover, this leads to reduction in the chances of "wear and tear injuries"
this means clubs can actually use the players they pay and not see their wages sat on a physios bench'"
I would prefer a even comp IMO, we all do have SQUADS and that would force us to use them, instead of fringe players been paid to sit in the stands.
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| Quote ="bluesox4evaaa"yes'"
What happens when all the best players switch to RU because they see it as big time and RL as small time?
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| Quote ="Big Picture"What happens when all the best players switch to RU because they see it as big time and RL as small time?'"
Then all the SL clubs will be ed and it won't matter a jot to someone who's club is in the Championship?
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| Quote ="Big Picture"What happens when all the best players switch to RU because they see it as big time and RL as small time?'"
why would that all of a sudden happen now? has the game suddenly become impoverished?
creating these expansion teams could do more harm than good, have you considered that?
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| Quote ="bluesox4evaaa"why would that all of a sudden happen now? has the game suddenly become impoverished?
creating these expansion teams could do more harm than good, have you considered that?'"
I think it would if it ran out of TV money and sponsorship is the point. I don't think you're covering yourself in much glory in your posts on this thread.
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| Quote ="bluesox4evaaa"why would that all of a sudden happen now? has the game suddenly become impoverished?'"
quite a few clubs have been and/or are less than financially healthy and there's nothing sudden about it
Quote ="bluesox4evaaa"creating these expansion teams could do more harm than good, have you considered that?'"
what do you base that on?
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| Quote ="Catalancs"quite a few clubs have been and/or are less than financially healthy and :2kng5mqythere's nothing sudden about it:2kng5mqy
:2kng5mqywhat do you base that on?[/
-well maybe they ought to make alterations to their financial structures then
-i base that on the fact that i believe many of these 'expansion' clubs would do better in the long run if they were made to grow gradually, rather than just being thrown in at the deep end. would it be good for the game if everyone abandoned celtic because they werent able to compete at the top level for 3 seasons and everybody lost interest?
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| Quote ="bluesox4evaaa"Quote ="Catalancs"quite a few clubs have been and/or are less than financially healthy and there's nothing sudden about it
what do you base that on?[/quote
-well maybe they ought to make alterations to their financial structures then
-i base that on the fact that i believe many of these 'expansion' clubs would do better in the long run if they were made to grow gradually, rather than just being thrown in at the deep end. would it be good for the game if everyone abandoned celtic because they werent able to compete at the top level for 3 seasons and everybody lost interest?'" '"
They have grown gradually. Celtic played their way up to the NL1 Grand Final last year. They'd have been in based on that if there was no franchising.
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| Quote ="bluesox4evaaa"why would that all of a sudden happen now? has the game suddenly become impoverished?
creating these expansion teams could do more harm than good, have you considered that?'"
RU has moved forward in many ways since it went pro and there's big money in it now to go along with a full slate of meaningful Internationals. RL has to keep up (if not close the gap) or fall behind, it's that simple. The days of being able to stick to the game's traditional areas are gone and that's all there is to it.
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| ok i admit i was wrong. i got carried away in the moment and i hope you can all forgive me
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| Quote ="bluesox4evaaa"ok i admit i was wrong. i got carried away in the moment and i hope you can all forgive me'"
No. You're a very naughty boy.
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| f**k. thats all i need.
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| Quote ="bluesox4evaaa"f**k. thats all i need.'"
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| Quote ="Catalancs"i wasn't having a go mate, i was asking a genuine question.'"
I wasn't having a go either, I was just answering your question with another question.
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