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| I think you'll find in dave wilsons case he was given every opportunity to have a full time contract and be a star but it was daves own fault for turning it down and doing what he did I know this because I know dave Wilson and he openly admits it so it wasn't a case of Justin not seeing him as a super league player as Justin held him in high regard
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| I felt sorry for Hardman because he had the skill and a slight bit of pace about him but he was just not good enough to break into a first choice at any SL club.
John Gallagher has now retired due to work commitments which is a shame because he was a good player for the Championship.
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| Ste Tyrer? Pushed too early IMO, likewise Tommy Lee.
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| Quote ="hullkrforever"Dave Wilson at kr made his debut in 2006 looked like a quality player then threw his career down the drain to much sha&ing birds and drinking'"
Ah right, wondered what happened to him, great prospect in our promotion season like you say.
Always feel sorry for Ian Hardman. IMO he's one of the best loan signings we've ever had, did an incredible job in helping us survive in 2007, but then needless to say his days were numbered once we signed Shaun Briscoe. If we hadn't I'd have been more then happy for Hardman to be given the slot in 2008 onwards.
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| Quote ="Roofaldo"Andy Smith at Bradford. Was tearing academy sides to pieces on the wing, but just couldn't seem to make the step up to SL level'"
I remember Andy Smith, he was a great passer of the ball and had a good defense but never had that turn of pace to break the line
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| James Coyle for Wigan.
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| From the original post, Crabtree was training with Wigan's first team squad when he got a bad knee injury which set him back badly. He captained an Academy tour to Australia which included a lot of current SL players.
There were a huge number of talented players in my age group, arguably more talented than current SL players at the time, who got a lot of money for signing on and thought they had made it before they were even close.
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| Kris Smith at Leeds - had bags of ability but picked up a couple of horrible injuries that he never really recovered properly from.
Still, he's probably the only name that'll get mentioned on this thread currently seeing to a Minogue
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| Just remembered i kid who was the best i had seen at junior level.....Daryl Lacey, this guy was immense really surprised he isnt playing SL. Anyone know of his were abouts?
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| Quote ="vikings 4 ever"Adam Bibey - Widnes paid a fee for him and Neil Kelly described him as one of the top forward prospects in the country
When I was doing a bit of googling I noticed this academy team from 2003 which beat the Aussie Institute of Sport team.
England Academy
Ian Hardman (St Helens) Try: 1
Lee Smith (Leeds)
Matthew Cook (Bradford) Sin Bin: 1
Karl Pyrce (Bradford) Try: 1
Danny Speakman (Wigan) Try: 1
Scott Murrell (Hull Kingston Rovers) Try: 1
James Coyle (Wigan)
Craig Huby (Castleford) Goals: 4
John Gallagher (Leeds)
James Graham (St Helens)
Jason Golden (Harlequins RL)
Harrison Hansen (Wigan) Try: 1
Carl Ablett (Leeds)
Subs:
Simon Grix (Warrington)
Brett Ferres (Castleford)
Adam Bibey (Widnes)
Andy Bracek (Barrow)
Bit of a mixed bag in terms of successes and failures really.'"
I was at that game and Karl Pryce was (literally and figuratively) head and shoulders above anybody else on the pitch bar James Graham
Graham has captained England and Pryce is possibly the biggest disappointment in Super League due to the lack of delivering on huge potential
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| David Mills
The Coyle brothers
Tommy Lee
Andy Bracek
Jamie Rooney?
Nicky Royle, though he's making a nice living for himself on the RU 7s circuit.
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| Andy Bracek, didn't Wire pay Saints 50k for him?
I think he's at Barra now.
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| Quote ="Wheels"Andy Bracek, didn't Wire pay Saints 50k for him?
I think he's at Barra now.'"
Yes, well they certainly paid a significant fee. Think Barrow released him at the end of last season?
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| I'll throw Dale Cardoza's name into the ring...
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| Quote ="Wirefan"Kevin Penny (still time)'" Penny has probably had a better career than his ability warrants.
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| Quote ="Clan-destine"I remember a few at saints a few years back, players who should have made it, i wonder why they didnt.
Saints
Chris Hill
Jon Simms
Dave Sexton
Phil Anderton
some from wigan and other clubs too
Damien Simms - wigan
Ant Irvine - Cas
Ali Cook - widnes
Andy Crabtree - wigan
these are just a few i thought would have made it. anyone else think other players should have??'"
is irvine the horrible little poison dwarf one that played hooker?
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| Quote ="Dunbar"I was at that game and Karl Pryce was (literally and figuratively) head and shoulders above anybody else on the pitch bar James Graham
Graham has captained England and Pryce is possibly the biggest disappointment in Super League due to the lack of delivering on huge potential'"
Pryce is, without a shadow of a doubt, one of the biggest disappointments to come through Bradford's academy.
He's got size, he's got power, he's got pace and he can kick like a mule. I remember a game he had for Bradford where he kicked out from under the sticks and it didn't bounce until it was pushing the oppositions 40m line.
He had bags of talent and potential, but he was just too lazy and lacked, and IMO still lacks, the heart to make a decent player in either code.
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| brad attwood and luke simeunovich, brad had offers to go to parramatta eels but declined, luke should have been used more at halifax.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Kris Smith at Leeds - had bags of ability but picked up a couple of horrible injuries that he never really recovered properly from.
Still, he's probably the only name that'll get mentioned on this thread currently seeing to a Minogue
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and becoming a bit of a local celeb here in aus on the back of it...
he was introduced on a TV sports quiz recently as an ex GB international... I was/ am not at all sure that is true???
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| Quote ="Clan-destine"Just remembered i kid who was the best i had seen at junior level.....Daryl Lacey, this guy was immense really surprised he isnt playing SL. Anyone know of his were abouts?'"
Had the odd game for Ormskirk RU around 2005 and looked pretty good - Not exactly what you expect from a lad who had a pro contract thrown at him when he was 8, though.
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| Quote ="underground"he was introduced on a TV sports quiz recently as an ex GB international... I was/ am not at all sure that is true???'"
They missed out the word "Academy".
Not sure he actually played a game in the top division of English rugby league?
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