Vastman, you crack me up.

C-, must try harder.

I'll explain the hard, cold facts to you because you're either missing them deliberately, or you're an idiot. The players did not know the clubs financial difficulties until yesterday morning - the desperate situation only became aware to the very top of the club last week when RBS withdrew the clubs overdraft.

So, despite your best efforts in your imagination that Wakefield lost a game of rugby due to some mitigating circumstances, they didn't. They lost because they weren't good enough.

You may find [url=http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/epistemology/this[/url useful in figuring out the difference between things you have made up and things that you know.

Quality thread, or complete load of

Thankfully, we lost last Sunday.

Hold on there AaronBull! Little vasty may be onto something.

A couple of years ago the wakey team were so keen to show their support for Ted, John Kear and the wildcats that they lost 50 nil to the Giants on Sky.....They obviously did not want to sign elsewhere....how's that for commitment!

On this reckoning, London players must be on contracts until 2020

Absolute Kn0b! Get back under your bridge

so did Bradford!

Now we know...

Great thread vastman. We do all need a bit of a laugh after this weeks dreadful news.

It's a quality thread of course, any thread that causes bloated indignation always is.

I didn't, I was already having a laugh at the dreadful news



Watch them go off now...

Your not always the brightest are you, next thing you'll be giving your hard earned to the Arthur Daleys at Odsal and doing a bucket collection amongst the 2000 fans were taking to London

I wouldn't include you as we, as I was referring to the tight knit RL family who are decent people. You don't come under that category.

great excuse for losing a game!! haha

after watching it, i came to the conclusion bradford were far better than an indisciplined wakefield team who completely lost the plot and were a well beaten team at fulltime!

So, just following your theory Vasty (in a humourous way) how do you explain why Bulls were pants against Salford at the weekend ?

Salford put in a quality performance. They must be going bust too.

Bulls TV was off the air.

Oh the hypocrisy of it all from the people team no less.

Is this the wider RL family that has happily not helped numerous other clubs in a similar position. If my memory serves me correct and it does Bulls fans in particular were keen to tell us all that it was there own fault and they should follow the Bulls example, oh the arrogance of those heady days.

Is this the wider family that allowed Chris Caisly to bully his way through SL like some flat capped mafioso.

Is this the wider family that ignored the blatant plundering of other service areas which was occasionally against the rules and always against the spirit of the game - Wakefield, Hudds and Halifax all on the wrong end of that particular scam.

And now people like you are out with your begging bowl as if your entitled to be rescued and by so doing keep your place in the elite with your squad in tact.

Come on then where's the give in all this from Bradford, where's the contrition. I have not heard Bradford even once suggesting they will sacrifice big name players to make it work. Quite the opposite in fact it appears they want the wider RL public to maintain Bradfords playing squad in tact. Despite the fact that this is ALL Bradfords fault. Not once have they apologised just shifted blame.

If there is a wider RL family then your the son who only turns up when they need a hand out because of a sense of entitlement that isn't deserved IMO.

No way am I supporting the Bulls and frankly I only feel sorry for the old Northern fans, the newer Bulls fans have had there fun and now it's time to pay.

People need to get a grip and see through this gushing sentimentality.

RL needs a team in Bradford true, what it doesn't need is the Bulls - it's time for them to start again like any other club would have to.

And if they do will you be pledging - yeah of course you will - like you did to prop up Teds old regime at Wakefield

Nobody asked me to give to Wakefield.

We are appealing to everyone, if you don't like it don't give, why make a big deal of it.

And its ALL Bradford's fault?

So we have been massively affected by a global economic situation and this is our fault.

Genuine first class fool.

No son your the fool and anyone who gives to the current Bulls set up is a fool.

You knew the situation at Wakefield, you have visited our site often enough on trolling missions it was plastered on there for an age. True the club did't get the begging bowl out to the wider community but the option was there.

Because it is a big deal, not least the double standard.

So who's fault is it then?

Yes the credit crunch will have played it's part, problem is that applies to all clubs not just Bradford - yey others seem to have coped without asking the world for a bail out.

You clearly didn't read my post as you have ignored every point - but then I'm the fool - well not foolish enough to prop up Robbing Hood & co that's for sure.

You've been "massively affected" by your former Chairman deciding to get into a measuring contest with another club despite having absolutely no chance of winning.

You've been "massively affected" by not taking the opportunity to give yourselves some financial cushion when you were on top and drawing huge crowds.

You've been "massively affected" by using a dubious tax avoidance measure to maintain a stronger playing squad than you could realistically afford.

The credit crunch and the tax bill are the breeze that has knocked over the whole house of cards. It's nobody's fault but the Bulls that they weren't living in a more durable structure to start with.

You may call me a fool, you're probably right, but it's because I love my club. Money comes and goes, it's not that important to me. My club is.

I think you can agree aswell (and yes I'll admit every club has had similar to deal with) that Bradford has been hit harder than most cities by the economy.