Good post.

I was thinking the same thing.

He brings nothing to the side these days.

Sure he gives his all... but his all simply isn't good enough. He reminds me of one of those old slow punch drunk heavyweights that drag themselves into the ring one or 2 times too many.

Not only is he a very ordinary player but he loses his temper too quickly and can't back it up either. He doesnt have the 'fear factor' in his game.

He should be dropped immediately.

And he's been given another twelve months deal.

Good player, but the frustration was clearly getting to him.

he isn't back to full fitness yet, his injured leg is still smaller than the other - if he gets back to that full fitness he will still be one of the best in Super league
if he doesn't manage it by October he shouldn't play for England

He's better than Morley as this stage of their careers. Truth is both are beaten and should be considering their exits from the game.

Bradford did well to get rid when they did to be honest

I hope this is sarcastic...

MacBanana will still pick him from Enland

he really is having a shocking season!

terrible today.

Who would you pick for props? Graham, Burgess, Griffin, and McCarthy-Scarsbrook?

Carvell, Mossop, Morley, Burgess, Graham, Crabtree and Griffin will all be in front of Peacock at this stage.

Crabtree?

For a big man he has to be one of the least intimidating players I've ever seen.


I'd sooner have Lady Gaga starting as prop than Eorl Crabtree

You're right, he's been a total disaster at Leeds.

Yeah, but your an idiot.

Reminded me a bit of Paul Sculthorpe at the back end of his career today. Being niggly and dirty to make up for the lack of ability he once had.

Not good enough for England anymore unfortunately.

I don't disagree with him both not playing that well or being dropped by England if his form doesn't pick up. But he's only a few games back from a serious injury which he may or may not fully recover from.

right! what a load of poop, morley is playing fine, or was untill some scouse cheap shot!

Returned from a bad injury.
Mid 30's
Not fully fit

Not the future for Internationals

As a giants fan i would have to agree



Unless Crabtree decides he wants to use his weight and actually gets fired up i struggle to be impressed. When he is good he is awesome, but i often watch feeling frustrated seeing a man of such stature not use all he has to offer on a more regular basis. And to be honest i think it frustrates me even more because he is the only person who gets cheered when he comes off the bench, probably because he is the only player half of our fans even know



I understand he has been a great servant to the club, i just feel he could give Hudds and England so much more!

Morley doesn't seem to be struggling when I see him.

I must say though, I was mighty impressed with Carvell on friday. For me, he has failed to live up to his billing since signed from Hull, but looks to really be in the right gear. The guy is massive and if he's on form, has the physical atributes to bother even the Aussies.

Eorl, to his credit, has shown up well at international level when I doubted his inclusion. I remember a game against the Kiwis when they didn't really know what to do with him.

Not seen too much of Hudds play, but what I have seen I would say that Griffin and Mason had more of an impact on the game than Crabtree

Ridiculous post, he's still in the top 5 best props in SL.

Who's your top 5?

I'm actually baffled....I've read this thread and actually agree with Phipps on his two posts...think I need to check into a hospital or something!!

Peacock on present form shouldn't be near the England team, I'd have him as a squad player to pass of experience and offer advice at present...but no way would I play him in his current form. I'd review that opinion if he improves drastically over the remainer for the season...at the way Leeds are going, they might not even be in the play offs! Jokes (before I get any Rhinos fans flustered with a comment like that!)

Crabtree should terrorise teams...he has the same physical attributes as Petro Civenoseva (massive spelling error probably I know - just can't be ar8ed to google the correct spelling). Yet I've watched Crabtree this year and have struggled to see how he is getting bullied in each tackle. Against Warrington (who admittedly have a rather fierce defence) he made no metres from the point of impact to him being put in his back. Not really feeling him for England in the 4n's either.

My pick (and see how this thread has gone off topic already) would be Sam Burgess (if he can't recover and get some game time), Carvell (absolutely the form Prop in SL right now), Graham (even though I still think he has more to offer than he is showing this season - which is a big statement considering as he is still playing very well - moving to the NRL will improve him greatly).....then I guess it would be a pick of a bunch. There lays the problem, we go on about how we have the advantage in the pack against the Aussies...but we never actually do. Their front row over the last couple of years has matched and in fact beaten ours. Players like Scott, Hannant and Petro would walk into our team...easily.

We need bigger props that attract 3 defenders and yet still drive us 5 more metres forward...until we open our eyes and accept that we don't have a better pack than the other nations and actually do something as a nation to sort it out, we'll lose.

Peacock will get picked for England...not because he deserves it...but because our World class options are so thin he is one of the best we really have - even in this form!