Yep agree with that. Enjoyed that game. The altitude and heat obviously took some of the wrestle/tackle away and allowed it to be more open.

Good win for England. 19,000 crowd is good as long as this game isn’t a one-off. Otherwise it’ll just be a waste of time.

I had £20 at 9/2 for England to win by more than 18.
It was totally unprofessional for Widdop to hand that kick to someone who had never kicked a goal before.

Read page 1 of this thread....... or
Simon Mannering - doesnt want to play because if he gets injured he won't get to the magical 300 NRL appearances,
drug lords - Proctor & Bromwich - disgraced, K Foran - wouldnt risk injury - big contract with the Bulldogs, S Kenny Dowall, nightingale, R Tuivasa-Sheck all would play for the first team but wouldn't risk injury for loss of big contract.

Are you happy now?,again read page 1 or guess yourself

No he hasn't. Albert kelly on one leg been miles better

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and that he was good.

Was waiting for that one. Kelly has been injured for a fair while and he hasn’t be as good this season. Still been quality and has his moments but not as good as Lomax. Even so that would put Lomax second which makes your statement look like nonsense.

The press were a little worried before the match and said it may just be a success ..... because the American audience might think they were going to watch the All Blacks who they called the biggest non-American sports 'brand' in the USA! To be fair there were a lot of All Black shirts shown in the crowd before KO.

mannering has retired from international rugby, he wont play again, if players refuse to play for their country putting club first, they shouldnt be picked again! we'll see how many play in october!

New Zealand were missing:

Full back Roger Tuivasa-Sheck
Half back Shaun Johnson
centre Dean Whare
prop Jesse Bromwich
2nd row Tohu Harris
2nd row Kevin Proctor
lock Adam Blair


That amounts to about 18 points worth of talent at the very minimum.

Next time England plays New Zealand, if those players are in the team, then it will be a very different contest.

Again Mannering is borderline to play 300 NRL matches and needs to play every single remaining league match to reach that target so he wouldnt risk it, however we play SOL who is as old as Coronation Street. All other players I mentioned would be in the team and there are more if you bother to read the thread from page 1.

I'm not even sure lomax is the best stand off at saints. He's a full back doing a half decent job at stand off in a dominant side. Looks lost when teams front up to saints and doesn't have the skillset to be a top classs stand off. Are you his dad?

I never thought I would be thanking you but I am and you are right with Harris & Blair etc

Are you and no6 related?

Jean , why are you even on here. You HATE English Rugby League. Do us all a favour and .....

Just pure shots in the dark.

If Mannering was that bothered about 300 he’d play next season.

Bromwich is out for a few months.

Foran HAS a big contract with the dogs for 3 more seasons and has been injured the last month.

RTS has just become a dad, missed a away nrl game because if it and is carrying a niggle.

SKD and Nightingale? Seriously?

Are you and Jean?

Bromwich would play and Procotor and Blair
Foran would play
SJ would play
Why wouldnt nightingale play when hes doing well with the dragons?- But there are more NZ wingers in contention.
So now we have established that NZ are missing more than a few, why would you question that we played a B team? Number 6.
BTW if you watch NRL the Bulldogs asked Foran to retire to offload his contract....

Bromwich is injured. Foran injured. Johnson struggling with hamstring injuries.

Nightingale is doing well? Apart from losing his wing spot.

So we’ve established New Zealand players are more injury prone.

There is literally NO silver lining that a rugby league fan can't find a dark cloud to cover.

Well apart from playing a B team we certainly provided entertainment and if we give more players a chance we might see a few more stars shine. That is one of the reasons I like watching the Raiders, they give a couple of Brits the chance and they have proven their worth. The NRL needs to give the international game more air to breath it cannot depend on the state of origin to grow the game overseas

So what are you actually saying? Are you saying we played the strongest NZ team? Really?

Quote ="Sheldon"Bromwich is injured. Foran injured. Johnson struggling with hamstring injuries. Nightingale is doing well? Apart from losing his wing spot. So we’ve established New Zealand players are more injury prone.'" Played 12 games - out of 15 games https://www.dragons.com.au/teams/telstr ... ghtingale/ Are you saying all the other NZ players have played 100 % ?

Quote ="Sheldon"Bromwich is injured. Foran injured. Johnson struggling with hamstring injuries. Nightingale is doing well? Apart from losing his wing spot. So we’ve established New Zealand players are more injury prone.'" Played 12 games - out of 15 games https://www.dragons.com.au/teams/telstr ... ghtingale/ Are you saying all the other NZ players have played 100 % ?

Of course not, Johnson, RTS could have been needled up and forced to play.

Bromwich and Foran could have had there form totally ignored and put a cast or moon boat on to play.

In that case, you clearly haven’t watched much rugby this season. Who’s the best stand off at saints then?

Quote ="Mash Butty"Played 12 games - out of 15 games https://www.dragons.com.au/teams/telstr ... ghtingale/ Are you saying all the other NZ players have played 100 % ?'" And the last 2 games he lost his wing spot to Mann. You think he’s been in good form? And learn how to read the stats sheet, he’s played all 14 games this year, scoring 1 try.

Quote ="Mash Butty"Played 12 games - out of 15 games https://www.dragons.com.au/teams/telstr ... ghtingale/ Are you saying all the other NZ players have played 100 % ?'" And the last 2 games he lost his wing spot to Mann. You think he’s been in good form? And learn how to read the stats sheet, he’s played all 14 games this year, scoring 1 try.