SL = GREED = Go take a jump the rest of the RFL!!!!. We don't give a monkeys including the international game.

You're so right. I mean, as an example, in the coming few days, a team of leading English and Exiles SL players will be released by their clubs to go hammer and tongs at each other in the interests of the wider picture and the national team.

Oh, hang on . . ..

Odsal is ok when its not raining. When it is the away fans are obliged to stand in the wind and rain and get soaked, in the same way they are at Wakey. At least at Cas you can get under cover unless the game is near capacity.

2nd point - absolute rubbish! Cas spend nowhere near the salary cap and are doing better than 3 teams spending up to the cap or certainly a lot more. Spending is no guarantee of success.

The clue to it not being a categorical statement, or absolutely fixed, regarding the licence grants for 2012 onwards lies in just three words of what you quoted.

It's about time the RFL started to scribe their plans in the flesh. Then there would be no doubt. You could fit the rudiments of franchising on Nigel Wood's stomach using a scalpel and some indian ink.

It appears that [isomeone[/i has never heard of plastic surgery!

I guess it shows the RFL don't have the balls to kick anyone out. But then you have to wonder why they decided to go down the franchising route, then.

To put a certain welsh team into super league. A team who, if playing to the same rules as all the other clubs and playing to the laws of the land, would never have made it under their own steam!

But don't question it. They "enrich" the sport with their 50 away fans, vast empty terraces when live on sky sports, constant financial problems and nomadic existence. Franchising = good

It is categorical, it categorically states that at this time the the league will stay at 14 clubs and the RFL are planning on the basis that there will be 14 clubs. They dont address any other possibility.

They have told us there will be 14 clubs, are working on the basis there will be 14 clubs, if something changes they will let us know. It is the only sensible thing for them to do, why you feel the need to find fault with it is beyond me.

Give Saints a chance PLEASE!!!

Sl will remain at 14 clubs,they said this on tv last year.
One club will go up and one club will go down,why are people struggling to grasp this fact.

Technically, two could come up and two go down but yes, the RFL have stated it is staying at 14 clubs and yet people still question it.

I think the RFL need to invest in some light aircraft to travel the distance of the M62, pulling along with them messages that the fans need reminding of like "14 teams". And a loud speaker in a vehicle going through the towns of the north shouting the rules like the muslim call to prayer. It's only by constant and intrusive reminders that we can know what is going on!

That was quite good for you Chris , I managed a little ' chuckle ' at that

Not a Salford fan then eh

There is no documentation produced that says SL WILL remain at 14 clubs. If there were then that would be categorical.

Use of the term 'at this stage' suggests a state of flux. Nothing is fixed.

Here's the full question and answer for you from the RFL site.

Will a Super League club be “displaced”?
At this stage the Super League will remain at 14 clubs in 2012. If a Championship Club meets the minimum criteria and the Super League competition remains at 14 clubs, a Super League club will be displaced.

Is that clear enough for you?

You're so right.

"At this stage......................." i am 5ft 2", have a pot belly, i'm balding and as fit as a sloth and probably couldn't even attract Kath Hetherington to my bed

However .......................................

With a little surgery, one or two transplants and a few visits to the gym all that could all change. Whilst Dickie Lewis announces an expanded league of 16 i'll be kicking Karolina Kurkova out of my bed.

No 'at this stage' doesnt suggest a state of flux. It only suggests a state of flux to an idiot trying to push a nonsense agenda they no deep down there is no justification for.

'at this stage' suggests that unless something changes this is the plan, if something changes which warrants a re-evaluation of the plan we will do the only sensible thing and re-evaluate the situation. Im not sure why you would want them to do anything else. Im not sure why you want the to say the league is staying at 14 regardless of what happens and regardless of any changes which would mean a change in the size of the league would be clearly beneficial. It is a ridiculous standpoint.

Yes, im perfectly happy with the statement. It is apparently, however, not clear enough for you.

Never say never eh Smokey? When are you going to buy that Fax season ticket?

Thats still about 25 more than Harlequins

What's intrigueing me at the moment is the way that Sky are banging on about Halifax being qualified for SL. Are they dropping hints?

So it's not a categorical statement then? Thanks for clearing that up. Perhaps you could give me an idea as to the variables involved that have prevented the RFL from issuing a categorical statement that SL WILL remain at 14 clubs?

No , they are trying to make it sound more ' interesting ' than

" Wakefield are f00ked "

We're not expecting to get in - unless we move to play in a MFI car park in edinburgh.

Great to see how the RFL are making preparing for next season so easy though, with Fax knowing which league they are and all eh? Just to make their "Licencing" games seem more intriguing!!! You fell for it buddy!

Did the RFL force Fax to apply to play in a different league?