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| Quote ="Donnyman"[i"Catalans became the first non-English club to win the Challenge Cup after defeating Warrington at Wembley last August. The victory created unprecedented headlines on both sides of the channel but by declining to pay the deposit requested by the governing body there is a possibility the Dragons may be kicked out of this season’s competition.
After Catalans’ appearance in the final drew a smaller-than-usual crowd of 50,672 to Wembley, the RFL was keen to protect against another loss in revenue – the cup final is often the most lucrative game of the season but was almost £800,000 down on projected figures last year – by asking three leading overseas clubs to provide a cash bond of £500,000 to enter the cup in 2019".[/i
The above isn't my opinion.
The RFL themselves came out against Catalans after a lack in interest in the club here when they got to Wembley.
You might like Fairy Tales, like a French team winning the RL cup, but it wasn't a French team and as for "more positive column inches" you made that up. The RFL didn't want them and nor do Superleague. It ain't about me so why not ring Rimmer and put your case to him?? Why not ring Lenegan and argue with him an anglo French Superleague would be a great financial success?'"
I wasn't talking about the attendance or gate receipts and you know it
I said "Their victory in the Cup a few years ago, gained more positive column inches in the media than any time in the 2000's." and it's 100% correct.
If you read the sports section of most of the papers, RL doesn't get's barely any coverage.
After the Catalan win, it's got heaps but, dont let that affect your bitterness, it's really quite sad, in fact, very sad.
As for making stuff up. Pot, Kettle Black.
Also, looking at the following year, Saints v Wire - two of the games big 5 clubs, from the RL heartlands.
They managed a pathetic 62,000. Yes, it's 12000 more than the Catalan game but, follows an alarming drop off in attendances over the past 5 years. I suppose that must be down to Catalan (or Toronto) being in SL ?
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| Quote ="wrencat1873" I said "Their victory in the Cup a few years ago, gained more positive column inches in the media than any time in the 2000's." and it's 100% correct.
So define "positive column inches" and tell me what those positive column inches were and what good did they lead to?
Didn't lead to Toulouse getting chosen to go into SL they picked Leigh......
As for Catalans they signed Folau to the disgust of all the English SL clubs, and many supporters of the English game. Was that [i"positive column inches"?[/i?
NO... It was totally negative wasn't it? Neither club have any intention of playing French sides because sadly there isn't the talent there anymore, so there's no chance of the French national team being revived and playing tests against Great Britain. The tests that did take place were totally negative with France being hammered every time...........
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Quote ="Donnyman" You might like Fairy Tales, like a French team winning the RL cup, but it wasn't a French team and as for "more positive column inches" you made that up. The RFL didn't want them and nor do Superleague. It ain't about me so why not ring Rimmer and put your case to him?? Why not ring Lenegan and argue with him an anglo French Superleague would be a great financial success?'"
You do know Lenagan likes French clubs,don't you?
https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/ ... bond-idea/
He also considers the Perth club,not Perth,Scotland, but Perth all that distance away in Australia ,to be suitable for Super League - https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/fi ... es-future/
Seems French television companies like French rugby league clubs.
Oh,I nearly forgot - Perpignan are French.He likes them,as well. https://www.totalrl.com/super-league-wi ... n-lenagan/
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Quote ="Donnyman" You might like Fairy Tales, like a French team winning the RL cup, but it wasn't a French team and as for "more positive column inches" you made that up. The RFL didn't want them and nor do Superleague. It ain't about me so why not ring Rimmer and put your case to him?? Why not ring Lenegan and argue with him an anglo French Superleague would be a great financial success?'"
You do know Lenagan likes French clubs,don't you?
https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/ ... bond-idea/
He also considers the Perth club,not Perth,Scotland, but Perth all that distance away in Australia ,to be suitable for Super League - https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/fi ... es-future/
Seems French television companies like French rugby league clubs.
Oh,I nearly forgot - Perpignan are French.He likes them,as well. https://www.totalrl.com/super-league-wi ... n-lenagan/
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| Quote ="Donnyman"It's not about me, leave the personal stuff out you are better than that.
The reality has always been survival, I think you would agree with that. In 1896 when we broke away from Rugby Union we had the same high hopes we have now and are no further forward with them.
Involving the French in 1996 was to try to [i"move RL out of it's provincial, Industrial landscape and into the metropolis"[/i. this is why London were also an important part of the plan. What Lyndsay wanted was clubs in places like London, Paris, Cardiff, Barcelona and Rome - Remember it was Super League Europe wasn't it?
Trinity were not really kicked out they just happened to come 13th. in the old First division when Workington Town did the double over them. Paris lasted a season and a half and by 1998 we were back to what we were in 1898.
The "current trend" is as it ever was which is surviving on it's "booty" on the regional support of the M62 public and business communities who historically went for the breakaway and who have generation after generation continued to buy into Rugby League. Somehow you talk as though we are at an all time low. Do you not remember how bad things really were around 1970?'"
He was hardly being personal.
Anyway, after all the personal insults you throw at me, glass houses and all that
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Been digging in the archives have you, one 2 yr old and the other two 3 yr old, lot of water under the bridge there pal not got anything recent have you or are you edging your bets on Perth now for your expansion
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Been digging in the archives have you, one 2 yr old and the other two 3 yr old, lot of water under the bridge there pal not got anything recent have you or are you edging your bets on Perth now for your expansion
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| Quote ="Steph Curry"He was hardly being personal.
Anyway, after all the personal insults you throw at me, glass houses and all that'" shut up you muppet you deserve it
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| Quote ="snowie"Been digging in the archives have you, one 2 yr old and the other two 3 yr old, lot of water under the bridge there pal not got anything recent have you or are you edging your bets on Perth now for your expansion
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Quote ="wrencat1873"Come on Donny, it clearly is your opinion, which of course, like everyone else, you are fully entitled to have and to put forward. Their victory in the Cup a few years ago, gained more positive column inches in the media than any time in the 2000's.'"
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/ ... ndorse-leg
Not my "opinion" is it.
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https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/ ... ndorse-leg
Not my "opinion" is it.
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| Quote ="Donnyman"icon_lol.gif
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You may well laugh.
After all.it is you who regularly state,as fact,that Lenagan,and Sky TV,want an all - English Super League.
It seems the facts,and Lenagan,indicate otherwise .
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| Quote ="Donnyman"
Absolute utter rubbish and you are looking more and more xenophobic with every post.
No French talent ?? Really ??
I'm fully accepting of the fact that Catalan - just like EVERY other SL club have used "Aussie" imports
Look at Warrington or Saints, with their big name overseas signings.
Perhaps we should start a thread on the last time England (or GB) had a world class half back pairing ??
Almost every SL club is filling these positions with overseas players, which goes a long way to explaining why we cant and probably wont beat the Aussies.
I will put this out there AGAIN.
Unless there is a change to the rules, to force Catalan (and Toulouse) to field "X" number of French born players, they are doing nothing wrong.
Is it disappointing that they dont have 10 quality French players in their starting 13, yes, it probably is.
Are they breaking any rules, NO.
Maybe we should prevent the UK clubs signing French players, to ensure that they have to play in France (or move to Union).
Would this be legal ?? I dont think so.
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| Quote ="snowie"shut up you muppet you deserve it'"
For having a different opinion I deserve to be bullied by a load of keyboard warriors?
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| Jean would have loved this, ibut he's not been the same since moving to Doncaster
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| Quote ="Steph Curry"For having a different opinion I deserve to be bullied by a load of keyboard warriors?'"
No, for being a middle rate Troll and general WUM.
But you already know that don't you?
However if you genuinely feel you are being bullied, you can contact site Admin.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Kicked out is close enough for me.
The announcement of the move to summer rugby and the inception of SL was rushed in.
Clubs were informed part way through the season that, it wouldn't be 1 club relegated and that it would be 6 and this was to accommodate Paris, Crusaders and London (who were promoted from 4th spot in the old 2nd division).
I agree that the unwillingness to merge with Cas and Fev meant that Wakefield, along with Fev, Salford, Widnes, Hull and Doncaster were dropped from the top flight but, "merge or be relegated" isnt exactly much of a choice.
There was certainly no place for Wakefield Trinity so, "Kicked out" is a fair description.
It seems bizarre now, that Hull FC were also kicked out/relegated, as they are one of the stronger and best supported clubs in the current SL. Also strange, is to see that Workington and Oldham were in the first SL.
How their fortunes have changed !'"
Wakefield shareholders were the only ones of the 3 clubs to vote in favour of merger.......
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| Quote ="Mr Dog"Wakefield shareholders were the only ones of the 3 clubs to vote in favour of merger.......'"
Not that it really matters but presumably you have a link to this yes?
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| Quote ="Mr Dog"Wakefield shareholders were the only ones of the 3 clubs to vote in favour of merger.......'"
Is that the most that you could take from a post which, was commenting on just how wrong it is to kick (any) clubs out of the league.
I really do despair sometimes.
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| Quote ="Mr Dog"Wakefield shareholders were the only ones of the 3 clubs to vote in favour of merger.......'"
Yes your quite right on that fact.
The Wakey shareholders had a 2-1 majority for the merger, no doubt the fans were heavily against it as were the fans of Cas and Fev......
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| Quote ="wrencat1873" how wrong it is to kick (any) clubs out of the league.'"
I dunno, if a new club reneged on all their promises, ran up a £30,000,000 debt, stopped paying suppliers, and stopped paying players wages even though the owners massive assets and income from Brazilian Potash mines never stopped flowing despite the excuses........
Then it's out on your ear old fellow me lad.............
Quite right too
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| Quote ="Donnyman"I dunno, if a new club reneged on all their promises, ran up a £30,000,000 debt, stopped paying suppliers, and stopped paying players wages even though the owners massive assets and income from Brazilian Potash mines never stopped flowing despite the excuses........
Then it's out on your ear old fellow me lad.............
Quite right too
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Move on already, they're gone.
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| Quote ="Wildthing"No, for being a middle rate Troll and general WUM.
But you already know that don't you?
However if you genuinely feel you are being bullied, you can contact site Admin.'"
Lol ok. I even reported threats made against my family and was ignored so don’t pretend rlfans admins care about anything like that
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| Quote ="Donnyman"Yes your quite right on that fact.
The Wakey shareholders had a 2-1 majority for the merger, no doubt the fans were heavily against it as were the fans of Cas and Fev......'"
Do you have evidence of this?
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No, for being a middle rate Troll and general WUM. But you already know that don't you?
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But keeps doing it
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| Quote ="Donnyman"I dunno, if a new club reneged on all their promises, ran up a £30,000,000 debt, stopped paying suppliers, and stopped paying players wages even though the owners massive assets and income from Brazilian Potash mines never stopped flowing despite the excuses........
Quite right too
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Really, quite interesting, would you like to expand
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| Quote ="happyjack"Really, quite interesting, would you like to expand '"
Nope. I probably need to go on a diet if anything
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