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| It was.
But the last games werent dead rubber last year.
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| Well ours wasn't anyway.
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| Quote ="dally messenger"realistically only english players have enough skill level to make it here
we arent a charity and clubs wont just sign clubs cause its good for the int. game
its going to take a long while to get int. RL as strong as wed like it to be'"
For once I actually agree with you.
People keep harking on about promoting players from emerging nations to make the international game closer. If they players aren't good enough, they won't get played. Simple. It won't do anything except lower our own standards.
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| Quote ="Old Darlin"
Misinformation and exposure.
Why am I surprised those two words pop up again. And again. And again... Oh...that's right, I'm not surprised in the least.'"
Because YOU keep typing them
I agree with you Old Dear......the game lacks exposure, but misinformation..I am not so sure about.
In the UK (and I am going on past years as I am no longer there) I doubt the European comp that Wales won would have got a mention in any of the national papers outside the M62 print editions. I doubt the Irish papers covered it much, the scotsman had no mention of it on-line and in wales it wouldn't have made much of a splash.....
If you temper this with the other lot and the Grand Slam tour of the AB's, I would expect every paper is all over the "international" at Twickenham this weekend. The Irish, Welsh and even the Scots will sell out their grounds for the AB's games and until an England team can (a) be cometative with the 2 southern Hemisphere teams and (b) sell out Wembley for an international, then the media whores will not cover the game......
I don't believe the misinformation stuff carries much water....as I doubt there is a secret agenda on a global scale to undermine league.....I can't speak for Australia, where League rules.....but the attendances over the next few weeks for kick and clap would point to International League not needing any lies to damage it........it's doing fine on its own.
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| if we ignore the last 10 meeting between PNG and australia the stats show :
average score aus 0
average score PNG 0
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Because YOU keep typing them
I agree with you Old Dear......the game lacks exposure, but misinformation..I am not so sure about.
In the UK (and I am going on past years as I am no longer there) I doubt the European comp that Wales won would have got a mention in any of the national papers outside the M62 print editions. I doubt the Irish papers covered it much, the scotsman had no mention of it on-line and in wales it wouldn't have made much of a splash.....
If you temper this with the other lot and the Grand Slam tour of the AB's, I would expect every paper is all over the "international" at Twickenham this weekend. The Irish, Welsh and even the Scots will sell out their grounds for the AB's games and until an England team can (a) be cometative with the 2 southern Hemisphere teams and (b) sell out Wembley for an international, then the media whores will not cover the game......
I don't believe the misinformation stuff carries much water....as I doubt there is a secret agenda on a global scale to undermine league.....I can't speak for Australia, where League rules.....but the attendances over the next few weeks for kick and clap would point to International League not needing any lies to damage it........it's doing fine on its own.'"
Typically you can't see it for the obvious reasons.
The union chips on your shoulders obscuring the view...
lol
A good example of misinformation off the top of my head. Which sport holds the largest crowd for a WC match in either rugby code in New Zealand?
Have a guess.
I've got another 50,000 after that one...
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| Only a moron would comment on PNG without mentioning the fact they are currently undergoing a civil war in the sport....
Nice work DM.
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| A further prime example of said misinformation in action is the complete absence of discussion of the fact rugby league has had 8 nations playing internationals this month...
Apparently rugby league has no international presence according to the "informed".
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| another question that needs to be addressed...why will 80,000 englismen turn up to watch their team get mullered by the AB's this weekend, when less than 10,000 englishmen can be bothered to turn up to watch their team muller France in RL?
League kicks unions ass on TV in the UK......League averages more fans at games in the UK.......why will Twickenham be full on Saturday yet Leigh was less than 2/3rds full last summer?
Find out the answer to this question and we can start to find a solution.......just a thought
As for "Historical" crowd records....keep typing them....they are correct but of no relevance if you want the game you love to progress.......other codes have taken ideas from RL and made them work......video refs etc.......but RL still seems too scared to blow its own trumpet......that's where the problem lies to some extent
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| So you googled and were shown up.
Again.
lol x10000
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| The answer to illustrate the misinformation point:-
1. Apparently rugby league has no presence in NZ.
2. Apparently rugby union is the only game in NZ.
3. Unfortunately for that misinformed view, rugby league actually holds the record for the highest WC crowd in either rugby code in NZ.
Now you may understand the discussion and the original point.
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| Quote ="Old Darlin"So you googled and were shown up.
Again.
lol x10000'"
are you on the grog early?
I have no idea what I am supposed to have typed in this thread that would have required me to google for an answer.....nor get the response above. If you are fishing, or looking for a board spat...then jog on.
Misinformation is not the lack of coverage of the 8 teams playing RL over the last few weeks.....that's exposure. Misinformation would be if someone said that only 4 teams were playing.....but nobody on here has
As I say, 80,000 brits will turn up, after paying nearly 100 notes eachon average to watch their team get hammered.....yet 9,000 or so turned up to watch England RL hammer France in the summer......why is a big question, but it is again, not misinformation.......
Seriously...more water, less grog Old Dear......
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| Oh dear. Your ego can't take the blow and you have to make up a drink story.
lol
Misinformation is the suggestion there is no international rugby league; when in fact eight teams have been playing it in the last month. Keep trying.
GF = officially out of ideas
lol
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| Quote ="Old Darlin"Oh dear. Your ego can't take the blow and you have to make up a drink story.
lol
Misinformation is the suggestion there is no international rugby league; when in fact eight teams have been playing it in the last month. Keep trying.
GF = officially out of ideas
lol'"
Nobody has suggested that 8 teams weren't playing League..........if they have, please tell me where they have said it......
I did say that the press didn't cover it.....but that is lack of exposure....not misinformation.
Seriously...more water....
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| What have you been under a rock for the last two weeks?
Seriously...you need more facts.
lol
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| Quote ="Old Darlin"What have you been under a rock for the last two weeks?
Seriously...you need more facts.
lol'"
Why do I "need more facts"?
The European Nations played.....Wales won...nothing in the way of on-line coverage on UK press websites.....no coverage...not misinformation.
Are you saying that there was coverage and I missed it? Are you saying the IRB supressed any reporting? ( ) are you saying that there SHOULD HAVE BEEN COVERAGE?....what are you trying to say?
Please...I'm irish....make it as simple as you can....I can do the Daily Telegraph crossword in 10 minutes, but some of your posts make the enigma machine look like an etcha-sketcha
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| How you going with finding a bigger WC crowd for union in New Zealand?
lol
The Irish Googler.
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| Quote ="Old Darlin"How you going with finding a bigger WC crowd for union in New Zealand?
lol
The Irish Googler.'"
I am not...never said there was...never said there would be? Your point is......what?
I will not be dragged into a "code' war....there's no point and all the stats in teh world will prove nothing.......Union is a global sport....league is a local one....the real question is how do we change this?
Hint: Reading history books isn't the answer.......in any walk of life. Look at all the Great Generals in war...Ghengis Khan, Alexander, Rommell.....brilliant men, but they all have one thing in common.......they lost.
Look to the future.......embrace change and let your opponents worry about you.....not the other way around!
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| Union global...
Stopped reading at that stage. lol
With its 4 WC winners in history...
Keep googling won't you...
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| I think we need to worry about people in Australia, England etc actually giving a hoot about rugby league and coming to internationals. I doubt the average - poor crowds in the 4N so far have anything to do with union and that's in the here and now.
As for why 80,000 will turn up for the All Blacks it's probably because of the All Blacks huge brand. The fact that France haven't troubled England and of course the test isn't even given a stand alone weekend. It's given little chance to fill Leigh sports ground. Never mind anywhere else.
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| Games between Australia v New Zealand in rugby league are close to the best international sport in the world at the moment, especially given they have less than half a point between them in the last 9 tournament Tests.
We have had poor weather for the 4N internationals in some cases...
The Wellington crowd was excellent against an English side which looked vulnerable pre-tournament in the backs.
We will have a magnificent crowd in Auckland this weekend.
England is a separate issue but you have gone backwards in nearly every on-field playing respect since the SLW...start staging the games as events rather than trying to hide them away would be a start.
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| Yeah international rugby league is going under in New Zealand.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"As I say, 80,000 brits will turn up, after paying nearly 100 notes eachon average to watch their team get hammered.....'"
Yeah, and most of them are inbred hooray henrys who couldn't give a fudge about Union's domestic leagues unless it involves Leicester or Barf, not to mention giving the code a bad name in other sporting circles (*Cough*RL*Cough*). The RFU are like the illuminati of rugby, they only do what profits them rather than the good of the game. Hell, they can't even get a proper manager nor pick the correct players hence international England RU going to hell... does anyone know what Rob face Andrew actually does?
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| Don't forget your hampers...
Heard at Twickenham today:-
"Lovely cucumber sandwich, Sue, pass the Pimms #1 Cup will you love..."
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