It'd be fantastic if people in this thread who are commenting, had a basic grasp on the substances that they have named themselves, during their post within this thread.

The differences between hCG and HGH for example, and when they would be used, and for what period of time, and their use within the body in relation to additional supplementation.

I doubt anyone that has already commented in this thread, really has a clue at all, and no just because dodgy Dave down the gym uses it and he has half a brain cell, don't take his word as 'gospel'.

cheers for that deep insight Dr phil.

hgh doesnt work anyway unless its mixed with steroids or some testoserone enhancer

somebody was offering me GH last week for $2000. waste of money

If you can get a look at the Canberra Raiders from 1995/96 and then have a look at them in 97 when SL kicked off out here you might start to think something is up.

Or maybe it was because the jumpers changed, but at the time, my old man said, geez, get a look how big these guys are now compared to last year.

I would suggest either contacting the RFL with your evidence then, or stop spreading unfounded allegations.

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Personally, I couldn't care less if one of you finds yourself out of house and home for posting a libel. What you won't do, however, is put this site and its admins at risk of financial ruin by trying to publish one here.

His 'growth hormones' are better known as 'Peters pies'

So you dont know the circumstances then,why didnt you just say that

well it didnt do them any good 2 years later they got hammererd by widnes and also andy currier was 12.5 stone when he was 15

Nice Barry.

Homophobic t***er.

If I remember correctly, the team went down hill as a heap of players became injury prone all of a sudden.

I really don`t see the point in players taking a gamble and messing their careers up.

There`s lots of suppliments designed for different jobs its a lazy way to go about it.



"The 31-year-old said he obtained the drug from a fellow player, paying him £150 for a month's supply in a service station on the M62

Also they need to shut this service station down if you can get HGH in between the magic trees and sweets





I`ll get my coat !!

Creatine Ethyl Ester is the stuff to use for good results.

Totally 100% legal and available from most health food shops.



Barry McKenzie uses it along with some whey protein and has the body of a greek god.

That's a surprise, you accusing 3 saints players!

Im well aware of the circumstances, and i still believe it is a much bigger error to mistakenly take some hormones, whoever prescribed them, than it is to take the wrong kind of cough medicine.

The RFL agreed. Im not sure what your argument is here?

He didnt mistakeingly take them,the then club physio gave them to him. I think at the time he was also employed by the RFL in a similar capacity,but again Im sure you know all this.
As I'm sure you know the stuff Senior tested for can be in masking agents as well as cough medicines.

He either mistakenly took hormones or he did it on purpose. Im happy to believe it was a mistake based upon bad advice, though this was the EXACT same excuse Ryan Hudson gave.


Im sure you also know both Senior and Bailey declared their use to the RFL. Im sure you also know that ephedrine as a substance was declared by WADA as a substance likely to be inadvertently taken by athletes

Being deliberately obtuse, or otherwise,anyway Im out.

my guess is aphrodite.

yeah creatine plus whey, and a good nitric oxide supplement before and during training

Similarly in Long's case he admitted in his autobiography that he'd been unwittingly injected with some naughty stuff by a physio employed by the club who turned out to be a complete fake. The physio had claimed to have worked with the GB cycling team etc but apparently it was all a load of lies and he hadn't a clue what he was on about.

Barry McKenzie can confidently confirm that NONE of the England Rugby League team have ever taken any 'performance enhancing drugs'



And if they have they must have been placebos. I've just watched a re run of their 2008 world cup matches

pretty sure sean long started turning out for hull a couple of months ago mate

Really! I thought being on the touchline in a club shirt that he was the mascot