Wigan and Hull don't seem to do too bad do they?

Hull KR this year seem to be going along quite nicely. Widnes, the team some people seem to think should have been in before us, need any more?

Love the way you totally dodged the last questions too.

25 years is way long enough, given the fact there are lots of other grounds in South Wales that are adequate as well as, in my opinion, there will be a ground in Bridgend by then.

People at the club are happy about this as in an old ground like BF it takes a lot of money to keep it in some kind of fit state never mind improve it. The group who have come in are talking of doing just that. Improved stadium with better pitch and not paying a penny out of our own coffers. Good business whatever way you look at it.

Starbug, I'm off to bed now me old mucka.

I'd just like to congratulate you and nominate you for the end of season awards on what has to be one of the most p!ss poor attempts at trolling/ stirring I have ever witnessed on these boards.

You should have left it at the title or better still just leave posting anything of this calibre again please and save all of our time.

25 years is long enough but irrelevant as the Crusaders only have an agreement to play for 5 years at the Brewery.

And nowhere has it stated what rent the Crusaders may or may not have to pay. The only rent talked about in all the articles is the rent paid by The Brewery Field to the council.

Don't know what the issue is here. If it means wading through a couple of grounds a la London to find a decent home then so be it.

The new Swansea stadium looks a cracker.

The only concern here is the WRU's involvement in the deal, through their funding of Bridgend Ravens' share of the deal.

To deviate slightly, I've a strong suspicion that with a long term economic depression now well in sight, the ground standards part of any SL franchise bid will be quietly dropped.

kick them out

I'm shocked and outraged and so's my wife!

The factory has been demolished and Phase 1 work complete
Phase 2 work starts back end of April/May when leases run out at warehouses and tennants are relocated.
At this point further site clearance will take place.
Phase 3 eg building the stadium is scheduuled to start late summer early autumn.

The CC Licence period of 5 years is long enough - if there is no sign of a new stadium being built in the first 2 years then they will almost certainly vacate the Brewery Field and probably relocate to Cardiff.
If the above should happen then this will be bad news for Brewery Field Limited as they are banking on the income from the SL attendances of the CC. Without this income they will undoubtedly struggle, and furthermore the CC are only licenced to play a minimum number of games.
Samuel has worked a flanker here as he has offloaded the Brewery Field for a considerable sum of money to the only people who could afford to buy it, he pays no rent or rates, and is now free to take the CC where he likes !!!....Brilliant.

No-one has a 5 year license. They have 3 year licenses. We've only just heard news about a new CC stadium so I'm not sure how long it will take, but I can't imagine it being 2 years.



They could always sell the land to build houses, couldn't they?

The 5 year licence is from the Brewery Field Limited to ply out of the Brewey Field......not to be confused with the 3 year SL Licence.
As for the period of time it takes to build a new stadium it does not matter as the CC can now play anywhere ....they are now free to play where they like.

surely not, as they dont own the land but a lease to it

Leeds certainly don't have this setup, the club owns its own ground in the same company it trades in.

as pointed out they can't they only own the lease. but if they did who cares with gate recipits for foosball starting to fall due to financial climate and the stadiums being empty for 4-5 months of the year who wouldn't want a SL team to set up shop in their yard!

its rent money! this deal would appear to free up the crusaders to be able to twist the arm of the local planning authority to push for a new stadium. the you'll let us build it or we'll go somewhere else routine. and whast more they can do it at minimal notice too.

Fair dos. Not quite sure how it all works on that front.

Again, I am shocked and outraged!

If Celtic are still playing at the BF in 25 years time then they WILL have a problem!

Yes, there are a few options to be open to them and it could force the hand of Bridgend Council to push plans through in this instance. Let's hope so. Bridgend FC are also talking of improving the Brewery Field. The beauty of the Crusaders is the fact they can do this and play people off one another as it is a South Welsh thing and not confined to one area. I for one do not want to go from Bridgend but if the powers that be at the club can broker a deal with Bridgend Council by threatening to take away Super League then it will only benefit the club.

For example, if they got into talks about the stadium with the council and they were denied this they could move to....

Cardiff Arms Park








For example. This would see them having better facilities than a lot of existing Super League clubs as it has hospitality boxes at both ends of the ground and is in a prime location, as can be seen in the last photo as it is on the side of the Millennium Stadium.

Just to reiterate I don't think many if any fans want to leave Bridgend and the ideal situation for me would be an improved BF or new ground construction but if the worst were to happen they could negotiate with people such as those at the Arms Park for a short term solution prior to getting something a little more concrete. There would be room for another team playing there too as Cardiff Blues are moving to the New Cardiff Stadium and it would be much the same set up of Crusaders and Bridgend RFC have at the moment.

A good post above...you now get the jist of what will probably happen. There are those in Bridgend that have no appreciation of just how big SL is and unless they take the CC seriously they could loose what could be a major asset to the town. Furthermore you can forget the new stadium as who is going to play there .....the Ravens with their 250 supporters...no chance. Unless EVERYONE gets behind the CC the Brewery Field will become an expensive eyesore, there will be no new stadium development and the towns biggest sporting asset ,the CC, will be playing elsewhere. Mark my words Samuel is now totally focused on making the CC a brand name and it would be a shame if it were established in a place other than Bridgend.

moving to cardiff has got to be a mistake given the competition

with top level union leaving brigend better to stay there.

I agree but now LS has sold the lease to the Brewery Field it opens a lot more opportunities that were not there before.

He now has a bargaining tool to push through the stadium plans. Whether Bridgend Council agree to it or not LS has the choice of pushing it as fast as he likes and making a decision. If Bridgend are serious about this, which they would be silly not to be, then they will go all out to keep Crusaders in Bridgend.