|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 3169 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Mar 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| A try all day long. The one right on the final hooter deserved a bit more scrutiny though I think.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 7762 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2003 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Apr 2023 | Jan 2018 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="ryano"A try all day long. The one right on the final hooter deserved a bit more scrutiny though I think.'"
Agreed. I don't think it was as clear cut as Klein made out.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 2862 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2009 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Dec 2017 | Dec 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Video referee gave two tries and siallowed one in Tonga vs Scotland on benefit of the doubt for the tries or uncertainty for the disallowed. In all instances the video referee had not enough camera angles. The worst case was the try awarded to the Scotland full back where it was not clear that the ball had touched the chalk because the video ref could not see a side angle. Sky could have done better because they have more cameras.
Of course Premier Sports commentary with main callers Andrew Voss or Dave Woods, plus analysis from Brian Noble, Shaun Edwards, Robby Hunter-Paul, and Darryl Halligan, has been outstanding (the third English caller for the Fiji game was weak, and could not pronounce Civinoceva). But that does not rectify or have any bearing on the serious problem we have of referees getting the right decision on try scoring.'"
Have you nothing better to do with your life give it a rest for god sake
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Owner | 8627 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Nov 2003 | 21 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2020 | Feb 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="ryano"A try all day long. The one right on the final hooter deserved a bit more scrutiny though I think.'"
some strange decisions by Klein all night, I thought.
I thought the double movement no-try was a bit harsh, and probably could have been given.
Likewise, the one a minute later that was given for the fingertip on the ball probably should have been disallowed, as he literally just scraped the ball with the end of his finger.
The one on the hooter was wrong. The ball was ripped out, in my opinion, and then it looked like the Tonga full back got a touch on it on the floor. At the very least it should have been a penalty to Tonga, possibly a try.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 31955 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2004 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Apr 2024 | Apr 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Capdouoze (or Albert Rosenfeld, or Barry McKenzie, or League Freak or whoever) is just hurting as he predicted Tonga would embarrass Scotland and is now trying to find excuses to put a dampener on what was a fine Scotland victory.
You people keep feeding this worthless troll, he will still keep coming back.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 2490 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2007 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2022 | Aug 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"The Matthew Russell try [iwas [/icontroversial.
This was a game that was decided on uncertainties. It would not have happened in the NRL where Channel 9 and Fox cameras offer enough angles for the video refs.'"
Sorry to see your love of everything NRL & pure contempt for the rest is still afecting your judgment. Get real, Fox pay for those cameras the money genarated by the NRL makes it viable, The lack of support for international rugby mainly by your beloved Australians means the World cup is run on a tight budget hence a small fringe broadcaster getting the job as the BBC/Sky can't be bothered. Just be thankfull you got to see the game at all.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 14302 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2018 | Sep 2015 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="EHW"some strange decisions by Klein all night, I thought.
I thought the double movement no-try was a bit harsh, and probably could have been given.
Likewise, the one a minute later that was given for the fingertip on the ball probably should have been disallowed, as he literally just scraped the ball with the end of his finger.
The one on the hooter was wrong. The ball was ripped out, in my opinion, and then it looked like the Tonga full back got a touch on it on the floor. At the very least it should have been a penalty to Tonga, possibly a try.'"
A penalty all day long but it wasn't possible for the Tongan FB to score as a Scottish player had grounded it well before he got anywhere near it.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Moderator | 12518 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2025 | Feb 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
Moderator
|
| Quote ="WireFanatic III"
You people keep feeding this worthless troll, he will still keep coming back.'"
Correct.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Owner | 17898 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2003 | 21 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2020 | Aug 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"(the third English caller for the Fiji game was weak, and could not pronounce Civinoceva). '"
I imagine he could spell it though
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1995 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Sep 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2023 | Nov 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Chris28"I imagine he could spell it though
'"
It's spelt Petrol Sixtycentsalitre
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 2453 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Nov 2004 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2020 | Oct 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| I don't think there is any less camera's than at a sky game. 1 in each corner plus touchline cameras.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Administrator | 21177 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 1999 | 26 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2025 | Feb 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
Administrator
|
| The camera angles are fine.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1519 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2007 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2019 | May 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| what a superb thread this is
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 4193 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Dec 2024 | Dec 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
Moderator
|
| There was me thinking Premier Sports had been doing really well in a great first week for the WC !
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 9721 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2020 | Apr 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| How about getting rid of the video referee?
It does the game no favours.
Let the match officials make on the spot decisions just like the players at normal speed.
They will get most right and some wrong just like the players.
It worked for a long time prior to its introduction to the game.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 48 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2009 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2021 | May 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Why is their coverage 10 minutes slow?
Reading my twitter feed, i saw of USA leading 24-20 when it was still 16-16!
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 8487 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2020 | Oct 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Bobbyrlfc"Why is their coverage 10 minutes slow?
Reading my twitter feed, i saw of USA leading 24-20 when it was still 16-16!'"
They suffered technical issues when the game was meant to kick off. This wasn't just a problem with Premier Sports but worldwide, as they were using the 'world feed'.
As a result, they showed the game in its entirety from the beginning at around 8:15pm, when the game was already 15 minutes old.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 1332 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2024 | Feb 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Leaguefan"How about getting rid of the video referee?
It does the game no favours.
Let the match officials make on the spot decisions just like the players at normal speed.
They will get most right and some wrong just like the players.
It worked for a long time prior to its introduction to the game.'"
At last someone agrees
It seemed at times that Shane Hayne (sp?) was merely a holographic on field avatar for the video ref!
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 26578 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jul 2017 | Apr 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="pocket 4's"what a superb thread this is'"
Please, share more of your insights...
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 48 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2009 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2021 | May 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Fully"They suffered technical issues when the game was meant to kick off. This wasn't just a problem with Premier Sports but worldwide, as they were using the 'world feed'.
As a result, they showed the game in its entirety from the beginning at around 8:15pm, when the game was already 15 minutes old.'"
Ah thanks for clearing up! Makes sense now!
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 2960 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2006 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2025 | Dec 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Leyther_till_death"Give it a rest.'"
It couldn't have been a try because Matty Russell doesn't play in the NRL so therefore it was no try !
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 426 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Sep 2013 | 11 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2014 | Feb 2014 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Anybody remember an era before Video refs where even an idea and the game of rugby got by very well?
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 2490 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2007 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2022 | Aug 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Worzel"Anybody remember an era before Video refs where even an idea and the game of rugby got by very well?'"
Yes we got on great untill some nerd invented the instant replay. Then all we got was endless arguments that the ref was wrong & we(insert team name) were robbed. I would happily go back to no video ref as long as we had no replays as well.
What I would like is the ref to give his opinion before going to the screen as they do in the NRL.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Administrator | 21177 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 1999 | 26 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2025 | Feb 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
Administrator
|
| Quote ="Beverley red"Yes we got on great untill some nerd invented the instant replay. Then all we got was endless arguments that the ref was wrong & we(insert team name) were robbed. I would happily go back to no video ref as long as we had no replays as well.
What I would like is the ref to give his opinion before going to the screen as they do in the NRL.'"
yes the Opinion is better I think.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 22777 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2006 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jun 2020 | Feb 2018 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| I wouldn’t give an opinion. It just means the VR judges something with a bias rather than simply his own view of it.
What I would do is split decisions between matters of fact and opinion. Matters of fact to be referred to the VR and matters of opinion handled by the ref. The only exception being violent or dangerous play, which if the on field ref doesn’t see, it is able to be referred .
So obstruction, laying on, messing at the ptb, etc with the on field ref. Onside/offside, touch, grounding etc VR.
|
|
|
|
|