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| Quote ="Rooster Booster"An observation is that in Victoria they seem to have sports loving fans unlike our resident one eyed drum beating, trumpet blowers in Dally M and Manlywhatever, as in Victoria they actually watch a rival code and therefore increased the (highly open to error) TV viewing figures.
You should thank these Victorians who aren't that interested down there, as some of them viewed the game purely on the back of there being a Melbourne team playing.'" You're a absolute tool,did you read the comment above?you couldn't be bothered reading coz your a lazy git. As you say no one cares about RL in Melbourne, but 900k watched watched the GF way back in 2005 with no storm on show.
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| Quote ="manly4ever"You're a absolute tool,did you read the comment above?you couldn't be bothered reading coz your a lazy git. As you say no one cares about RL in Melbourne, but 900k watched watched the GF way back in 2005 with no storm on show.
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Er, where did I say that?
Er, your "fact" also goes to prove in Victoria they watch other codes unlike you and your mate Dally Real sports lovers. Yet you quote them when it suits you. The rest of the time you call them GayFL fans.
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| Quote ="manly4ever"Oh now real sport lovers,b4 it was no one gives a damn. icon_rolleyes.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif'"
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You should thank these Victorians who aren't that interested down there, as some of them viewed the game purely on the back of there being a Melbourne team playing.'"
Erm. Sorry if it's in English. Still can't find the "no-one gives a damn" comment. Tut tut.
Add a few more emoticons in your next reply. You'll look even cleverer.
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| Quote ="Rooster Booster"Erm. Sorry if it's in English. Still can't find the "no-one gives a damn" comment. Tut tut.
Add a few more emoticons in your next reply. You'll look even cleverer.'" Let's just put it this way, you gave the impression that no one cares yes =darkred[size=200no one cares[/size. And as for emoticons you look silly even not putting any....
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| Quote ="manly4ever"Let's just put it this way, you gave the impression that no one cares yes =darkred[size=200no one cares[/size. And as for emoticons you look silly even not putting any....'"
He didn't say that no-one cares, and nor did he imply it from what I can see.
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| Quote ="J. Willard Gibbs"He didn't say that no-one cares, and nor did he imply it from what I can see.'" He gave the impression,that's good enough.
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| rooster gooster wrote >You should thank these Victorians who aren't interested down there, as some of them viewed the game purely on the back of there being a Melbourne team playing.
Yes they arn't interested that's why nearly 800k watched it,and like i said for the 50 millionth time 900k watched the 2005 GF with no Melbourne team.If they weren't interested why are they watching?they call our game bum sniffers and pass the ball back and run.If they hated it that much they would not watch it full stop.
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| im not fussed about melbourne
im more concerned we reach potential in queensland and nsw, then PNG and NZ. places that are crying out for RL
we dont need to be like AFL and shoving the sport down peoples throats.
if you prefer watching AFL over RL, god help you to begin with and i wouldnt be wasting any time of money on you
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| Quote ="manly4ever"He gave the impression,that's good enough.'"
How does that differ from implying it?
And for the record, I don't think he did - calm down a bit and read it again!
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| Quote ="J. Willard Gibbs"How does that differ from implying it?
And for the record, I don't think he did - calm down a bit and read it again!'"
for someone who claims a lack of interest in australian matters, you sure hang around like a bad smell on every nrl thread.
someobody open the doors, the place is getting stunk out
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| Quote ="dally messenger"for someone who claims a lack of interest in australian matters, you sure hang around like a bad smell on every nrl thread.'"
Eh? I do have an interest in the NRL, I'm just aware that we have a dedicated sub-forum for it, and not every bit of Australasian news needs to be immediately dumped on the main forum.
Quote someobody open the doors, the place is getting stunk out'"
It's difficult to take anything you say seriously when even the other Aussies on here and elsewhere think you're a laughing stock.
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| won't that be, or be close to the biggest audience of the year in Australia?
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| Quote ="UllFC"won't that be, or be close to the biggest audience of the year in Australia?'" It surely is.So how does it feel to be a RL fan in the UK, the game you invented so popular in OZ.It makes you proud I hope.
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| Quote ="manly4ever"It surely is.So how does it feel to be a RL fan in the UK, the game you invented so popular in OZ.It makes you proud I hope.'"
I'm not so sure it's pride, as the success of the game in Aus doesn't really have all that much to do with us. We may have helped to set the ball rolling a [ilong[/i time ago, but the trajectory since then is largely due to the Australian support the game garnered.
Speaking personally, I'm happy that the game is getting the coverage it deserves elsewhere, but frustrated by the comparison to the media situation over here.
Oh well, we'll just keep plugging away "over here". We're making steady progress, I think, and we'll get there in the end.
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| Quote ="J. Willard Gibbs"I'm not so sure it's pride, as the success of the game in Aus doesn't really have all that much to do with us. We may have helped to set the ball rolling a [ilong[/i time ago, but the trajectory since then is largely due to the Australian support the game garnered.
Speaking personally, I'm happy that the game is getting the coverage it deserves elsewhere, but frustrated by the comparison to the media situation over here.
Oh well, we'll just keep plugging away "over here". We're making steady progress, I think, and we'll get there in the end.'" I cannot fathom the fact that RL is not as popular in the UK as is in Aus ,especially when you had 13 years head start from ours.The way I look @ it you guys should be leading the way and setting a example to the rest of the world as you're the founders of this great game.
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| Quote ="manly4ever"I cannot fathom the fact that RL is not as popular in the UK as is in Aus ,especially when you had 13 years head start from ours.The way I look @ it you guys should be leading the way and setting a example to the rest of the world as you're the founders of this great game.'"
It's a pretty obvious thing to say, but the UK is not (and was not) Australia. There will obviously be common ground in some ways, but RL is Aus started in one of the major cities, and that city that has maintained its prominence in terms of population and media attention.
We never "had" London, for example. And nor did we ever really "have" places like Birmingham, Manchester, Liverpool etc. It's my opinion that the open hostility RL faced from people in a position of power in the UK was a barrier that was not there in the same way in Aus.
Due to the Sydney connection, RL always had a direct line into one of the major power bases in Aus - we could never take advantage of something like that. We really needed business acumen and media savvy in the UK game, but the social situation has been such that the people who typically wield such powers simply didn't ever become involved in the game.
I think we're getting better at it, though. It'll take time, but I feel we're on an upward trajectory and picking up steam.
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| Quote ="J. Willard Gibbs"It's a pretty obvious thing to say, but the UK is not (and was not) Australia. There will obviously be common ground in some ways, but RL is Aus started in one of the major cities, and that city that has maintained its prominence in terms of population and media attention.
We never "had" London, for example. And nor did we ever really "have" places like Birmingham, Manchester, Liverpool etc. It's my opinion that the open hostility RL faced from people in a position of power in the UK was a barrier that was not there in the same way in Aus.
Due to the Sydney connection, RL always had a direct line into one of the major power bases in Aus - we could never take advantage of something like that. We really needed business acumen and media savvy in the UK game, but the social situation has been such that the people who typically wield such powers simply didn't ever become involved in the game.
I think we're getting better at it, though. It'll take time, but I feel we're on an upward trajectory and picking up steam.'" I don't know if you have heard but John Howard the ex prime minister of Australia is a candidate of running the NRL ,maybe they the RFL should follow suit.But then again John Howard is a die hard RL fan and he would bend backwards for RL.
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| They have a different mindset in England that has held the game back for decades.
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| Quote ="manly4ever"I don't know if you have heard but John Howard the ex prime minister of Australia is a candidate of running the NRL ,maybe they the RFL should follow suit.'"
Given that some recent PMs are Blair, Thatcher, Major and soon to be Brown, I wouldn't want any of them heading the RFL!
Quote But then John Howard is a die hard RL fan and he would bend backwards for RL.'"
Dingdingdingding!
That's the advantage of influence - people in power not only make the effort to promote your game in an effort to leach good PR, they're also in a position to help out in some cases.
We don't have that, and never did.
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| Quote ="J. Willard Gibbs"Given that some recent PMs are Blair, Thatcher, Major and soon to be Brown, I wouldn't want any of them heading the RFL!
Dingdingdingding!
That's the advantage of influence - people in power not only make the effort to promote your game in an effort to leach good PR, they're also in a position to help out in some cases.
We don't have that, and never did.'" It's time you did.It's the 21 century for crying out loud,like leaguefreak said you're behind for decades . Let's move with the times.
On another note on the 4 nations why why why aren't they playing the Aus vs Eng game @ wembley I never know. Yes I agree with Leaguefreak the game over there is going backwards It really is a shame.
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| Quote ="J. Willard Gibbs"Eh? I do have an interest in the NRL, I'm just aware that we have a dedicated sub-forum for it, and not every bit of Australasian news needs to be immediately dumped on the main forum.
It's difficult to take anything you say seriously when even the other Aussies on here and elsewhere think you're a laughing stock.'"
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| Quote ="dally messenger"thats why the melbourne storm cant get shown on Channel 9 before midnight in melbourne despite contracts in place saying it should happen
and its not as if the media in melbourne regularly bag RL or that after 4 straight consecutive GFs the storm can only average 13,000 each week, well below the average NRL crowd
if souths made 4 straight GFs they would get 30,000 - 40,000 each week'"
Compare that the crowds that the top sides in the AFL get - club games in the AFL dwarf attendances even for Origin let alone club games in the NRL - that is why the Sydney guys are bothered about the AFL - the best supported sports side in Sydney is the AFL side
Melbourne has the best attended sport in Australia, it has the biggest crowds for cricket, it has one of the top for tennis tournaments in the world and Australia's biggest horse race - Sydney has more TV viewers of sport - no wonder their jealous
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| Quote ="manly4ever"It's time you did.It's the 21 century for crying out loud,like leaguefreak said you're behind for decades. Let's move with the times.'"
All of this is very much easier said than done!
The game is starting to get a toe hold on the various ways of gaining influence; one is to move outside the traditional boundaries and expose more people to RL who otherwise wouldn't really be aware of it. Another is to get a better presence in the places that traditionally produce people who end up at the levers of power in commerce, industry and politics - specifically universities.
Quote On another note on the 4 nations why why why aren't they playing the Aus vs Eng game @ wembley I never know. Yes I agree with Leaguefreak the game over there is going backwards It really is a shame.'"
I'm guessing any reticence on the part of the RFL to move the games to the larger grounds is due to the expense, and the potential for a half full ground to kill the atmosphere. We're rebuilding from a very weak base financially (the World Cup in 2000 damn nearly killed us off in that respect), and the RFL have been doing good work to steadily improve the finances.
I have no doubt it will happen, but I'd rather slow and steady at the moment with respect to the internationals as opposed to a potentially costly disaster.
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