I've watched the video time and time again, Good luck finding a screenshot of Tamou HOLDING Garbutts shirt, it doesn't happen!

If I recall correctly we can't link videos on here but if you are on facebook look at the video on the rugby league banter page.

Garbutt clearly grabs hold of Tamou when he is looking at Galloway, cocks his right arm back and the only point Tamou so much as touches Garbutt is when he tries to remove Garbutts left arm of him, At which point garbutts right hand is about an inch away from his face...

Paul Green, the NQC coaches view on Garbutts leatherface impression "it was a punch, a pretty good one actually"

On youtube already, Tamou is looking directly at Galloway and expecting a bit of a scuffle with him, Garbutt just smacks him in the mush, i'd say 3-4 games as Garbutt was not under threat at all, it would be six months if it happened down the high street.

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James Tamou, looking directly at Keith Galloway with his arms down apparently.

It would be 6 months for a bloodied nose? I hope you're not a judge.

Re the game itself, the lack of structure in SL vs the NRL was evident again. That's why the Roosters could play with two rookie halfbacks and barely miss a beat whereas Leeds do and look fairly hopeless with the ball.

To me it screams for the need for better technical coaching in SL. The difference in quality of players physically is one thing, but to lose heavily in part due to an inability to make structured plays in attack (and read them in defence) is something that ought to be fixable.

nice screenshot... not sure how he was supposed to still be looking at Keith galloway after he'd just been punched in the face though ....

Im not sure how he managed to get his hands on Garbutt and square on to him without him knowing he was there. Its a very odd fighting stance toward Galloway

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pretty obvious tamou and galloway are eying each other up whilst garbutt is busy swinging his arm in.

Garbutt literally takes two more steps before hitting Tamou.

But either way, you have made up your mind. Your Mrs Lovejoy impression is not going to make a difference to anybody

Really? From that angle you can tell who Tamou's eyes are on even though Garbutt and Galloway are side by side........and even though that still shot and the video show Tamou trying to knock Garbutt's left hand off his shirt he appears to have no idea Garbutt was there.....ok then

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exactly, arms out, one foot behind the other in a fighting stance. Not straight on, arms down looking at someone else.

Its interesting that NQC's excuse wasnt that he was looking at Galloway or any of the nonsense here, but that he saw it and because of the rules in OZ simply didnt expect a punch and got tagged with one.

Yeah I've seen the video thanks and its shows what I said. Funny thing how no one is bothered that Tamou hit Galloway whilst Galloway was looking towards what the dummy half was about to do.....but I suppose playing for an NRL team and being a girlish slap makes that fine.

If you don't want to get punched then don't throw one. Even if it was a pansy attempt.

Yep, in a fighting stance against Keith Galloway, not against the cheap sideshot from fatboy Garbutt...nothing like Fielden and Mason..that was one on one, this was two on one.

So even though the still shot clearly shows Galloway to be behind Garbutt and Tamou trying to knock Garbutt's left hand off his shirt, his fighting stance was aimed at Galloway......you're a genius mate.

Tosh!

I like most RL fans have no problem with a bit of honest bif but Garbutt came in from the side and hit a bloke who wasn't even looking at him!

It's a cheap shot and there's nothing to admire about it!

Tamou hit a bloke who wasn't looking at him, do you have the same problem with that? To say that Garbutt came in from the side is very generous of you - admittedly he wasn't dead centre but they were near enough squared up and Tamou was in fighting stance.

I'm not saying what Garbutt did was alright, but it was understandable (having, from his perspective at least, just seen his fellow prop get punched) and it was nowhere close to the cheap blindside shot a lot of handwringers on here are making it out to be.

He didn't come in from the side. He didn't hit someone who wasn't in fighting mode. He didn't hit someone who had no idea he was there. He didn't hit anyone who hadn't already started something. He didn't hit someone who was in any way unable to defend themselves. He hit someone who had popped his team mate. End of story. Any more than a one match ban would be very harsh.

So you admire what he did then?

We have very different opinions on what's acceptable behaviour from a professional sportsman!

Jeez - what has the world of RL come to when a bit of biff between props causes 'outrage'....

The supporters of our game have gone soft....

What was Garbutt really going to do - just stand there and watch? It's rugby league, he's a prop, who cares - Tamou got up wanting some, he got some... 1 in, all in.... When these things happen in the heat of the moment, players usually pile in swinging - they don't tap people on the shoulder and ask them to look them in the eye before swinging.

Those 'outraged' can't have played the game, or are part of the new cult of 'social media outraged'....

If you can point out to me where I've said I admire it then bravo to you.

What I have said is I understand it.

You, on the other hand, have painted an entirely untrue picture of the events in order to be outraged by what was in actuality a fairly standard situation of two props coming together. Hope that helps.

My opinion on the punch was it was a cheap shot. I like a bit of biff and if Galloway decked him after his slap, then fair enough as they were standing toe to toe with each other.

Garbutt decks Tamou while he's not looking though (yes I'm sure someone can get a screenshot of a split second when Tamou is looking at Garbutt) but Tamou is looking at Galloway and it's a cheap shot IMHO

Thought Leeds did well and Jordan Lilley can hold his head high in particular. Would have liked to have seen the GF winning side take the Cowboys on rather than the one last night.

Lilley is going to be a cracking player. Despite him being junior to Sutcliffe, he was the one really leading the side around last night. If he weighed a stone or two more, he'd have scored last night too, very unlucky that.

Sutcliffe is a funny one. he looked very good last year, but he was slotting into a very very good side and being asked to carry out a specific role. I think so far this year he's looked a bit lost with the added burden. Early days though, he's definitely got the skill set.

Agree on Lilley - I'd say with the performances he's put in, particularly against the better opposition of NZ and the Cowboys, he's taken his chance and put himself above Sutcliffe in the pecking order. When McGuire is back fit, as things stand I'd be using a H/B pairing of Lilley and McGuire. Lilley is also a good goal kicker (though last nights effort in the wind/rain wasn't particularly good).