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| Quote ="LeedsLurch"The only thing that Childs can be blamed for is not taking the players off the pitch and insisting that the penalty be playyed. IMO once the trouble started in the stands he should of taken the players away from any involvement, just a little too adherant to the rules for no particular good reason'"
That would have made him the first referee to abandon a game in Super League history I believe? On TV as well. The players were well capable of tapping the ball and kicking it dead to end the game, they just made it take forever by debating it with him instead of just doing it. Child by the way, not Childs
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| Quote ="Psychedelic Casual"It was James Child’s fault that he lost control of the game, yes. The incidents in the crowd were as a result of the game being out of control.'"
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| I can't see what Child could have done differently, 26 "grown men" behaving like kids. The stewarding needs investigating and the gendarme will take a view on the crowd I am sure.
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| Quote ="Psychedelic Casual"It was James Child’s fault that he lost control of the game, yes. The incidents in the crowd were as a result of the game being out of control.'"
Thats a load of garbage and a bit of a cop out, James Child had an enormous job trying to stop all the foul play from the worse 2 teams in superleague for this kind of stuff. Warrington have almost double the amount of yellow cards than anyone else in the competition will 11 yellows so far. Add the constant chirping from "Budgie" Hill he tried to take the control of the game from the ref. Budgie needs to keep his trap shut and not use foul language.
It was comedy gold from James Child when he penalised Philbin for lying on, Phibin appealed and James Child said you "were almost falling asleep on him."
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Thats a load of garbage and a bit of a cop out, James Child had an enormous job trying to stop all the foul play from the worse 2 teams in superleague for this kind of stuff. Warrington have almost double the amount of yellow cards than anyone else in the competition will 11 yellows so far. Add the constant chirping from "Budgie" Hill he tried to take the control of the game from the ref. Budgie needs to keep his trap shut and not use foul language.
It was comedy gold from James Child when he penalised Philbin for lying on, Phibin appealed and James Child said you "were almost falling asleep on him."'"
Hill ia just a dirty bully, like the kid at school who was that bit bigger than everyone else, he should have got 3 matches.
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| Quote ="IR80"Hill ia just a dirty bully, like the kid at school who was that bit bigger than everyone else, he should have got 3 matches.'"
Was this the bloke who placed his arm in the mouth of an opponent and ran over to the ref claiming he had been bitten? a cheating bully as well if this was correct.
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| Millington (Tigers) 2 match ban for punching.
Hill (Wire) no action taken.
RFL = total joke.
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| I can't stand Chris Hill. Never a captain in a million years, not as good a player as some seem to think he is, and has let us down in big games time and time again. I haven't joined in the recent fawning over Ben Westwood either. Great player he was for us yes, but his Wires career should have ended at least three years ago, and probably earlier. I might not be bothered about a few fisticuffs, but hearing "Super Bennie Westwood" makes me cringe every single time.
As for anyone still crying about the fighting, just wait until we get beat at Wembley and have a few thousand Widnes fans there celebrating more than the Saints fans...
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| Quote ="Grimmy"That would have made him the first referee to abandon a game in Super League history I believe?'"
Might have been before SL but I remember a game at Wheldon Road (Tigers Vs Hull FC) where all 26 players were sinned binned at the end of the game. It was a spiteful game and IIRC a Hull player suffered a badly broken leg. Can't remember his name.
IMO this is what Child should have done.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"Might have been before SL but I remember a game at Wheldon Road (Tigers Vs Hull FC) where all 26 players were sinned binned at the end of the game. It was a spiteful game and IIRC a Hull player suffered a badly broken leg. Can't remember his name.
IMO this is what Child should have done.'"
I remember that game, i think it was Gary Pearce who had his leg broken.
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| Quote ="IR80"I remember that game, i think it was Gary Pearce who had his leg broken.'"
Yes - your right. It was Gary Pearce.
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| Quote ="Grimmy wrote:"
That would have made him the first referee to abandon a game in Super League history I believe?'"
Because it hasn't happend before shouldn't stop him doing it when it is the right thing to do!
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| Quote ="Tigerade"Yes - your right. It was Gary Pearce.
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Also, IIRC there was nothing wrong with the tackle, Gary had just tried an up and under and the Cas player took out his standing leg, no malice that I could see, just an accident.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"Might have been before SL but I remember a game at Wheldon Road (Tigers Vs Hull FC) where all 26 players were sinned binned at the end of the game. It was a spiteful game and IIRC a Hull player suffered a badly broken leg. Can't remember his name.
IMO this is what Child should have done.'"
Thinking back, sidm't they all go off mid way through the second half, and came back out? I think it was Lee Crooks I spoke to about it some years later and he said, it was a tough game, but both teams had a pint afterwards.
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| Quote ="Dropkick Murphy"I can't stand Chris Hill. Never a captain in a million years, not as good a player as some seem to think he is, and has let us down in big games time and time again. I haven't joined in the recent fawning over Ben Westwood either. Great player he was for us yes, but his Wires career should have ended at least three years ago, and probably earlier. I might not be bothered about a few fisticuffs, but hearing "Super Bennie Westwood" makes me cringe every single time.
As for anyone still crying about the fighting, just wait until we get beat at Wembley and have a few thousand Widnes fans there celebrating more than the Saints fans...'"
There aren't a few thousand Widnes fans anywhere these days, let alone at Wembley, for a cup final, not involving their side.
Warrington need to get their own house in order and fast.
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| Sounds about right does that. I'm thinking that match was about '94 or 95'. Crooks, Nickau, Blackmore, Mike Ford, Steadman and Kemp era for Cas.
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| Quote ="LeedsLurch"Because it hasn't happend before shouldn't stop him doing it when it is the right thing to do!'"
Agreed with your general point, but I went on to say I don't think it was the right thing to do. The fans weren't fighting on the pitch so there was no danger to players. Just tap the ball and kick it dead which they (eventually) did.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"Might have been before SL but I remember a game at Wheldon Road (Tigers Vs Hull FC) where all 26 players were sinned binned at the end of the game. It was a spiteful game and IIRC a Hull player suffered a badly broken leg. Can't remember his name.
IMO this is what Child should have done.'"
That would be an abandoned game too (now at least) as you need a minimum of 9 a side. Plus some of those players will have done nothing at all, so he would look ridiculous for sin binning them when it went to disciplinary.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"There aren't a few thousand Widnes fans anywhere these days, let alone at Wembley, for a cup final, not involving their side.
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How wrong you are.
Recent games......
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Widnes Vs Bradford 5335
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Widnes Ve Leigh 5866
That's not too shabby for the Championship in my book. I'd dare to say it's not too far of Wakey's average this season.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"Sounds about right does that. I'm thinking that match was about '94 or 95'. Crooks, Nickau, Blackmore, Mike Ford, Steadman and Kemp era for Cas.'"
Steadman, there was a man who could play.
At the risk of turning this into a nostalgia thread, who did Tex Evans play for. or "Tex (the) Piss" as we used to shout.
Thinks it was Salford.
Swinton then Salford.
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| Quote ="Grimmy"That would be an abandoned game too (now at least) as you need a minimum of 9 a side. Plus some of those players will have done nothing at all, so he would look ridiculous for sin binning them when it went to disciplinary.'"
When it spills out onto the terraces though and fans are in danger (as they were on Saturday) looking ridiculous is his least worry.
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| Quote ="IR80"Steadman, there was a man who could play.
At the risk of turning this into a nostalgia thread, who did Tex Evans play for. or "Tex (the) mickey" as we used to shout.
Thinks it was Salford.
Swinton then Salford.'"
Yes - definately Salford. Great player.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"Might have been before SL but I remember a game at Wheldon Road (Tigers Vs Hull FC) where all 26 players were sinned binned at the end of the game. It was a spiteful game and IIRC a Hull player suffered a badly broken leg. Can't remember his name.
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Why on earth should he have done that?
Most of the players hadn't done anything to warrant a sin binning, and if the increasingly whiny Chris Hill had stopped chebbing, they could have tapped the penalty, kicked it dead, and been off the field 5 minutes sooner.
Really pathetic watching people deflect from the behaviour of players and fans, on to James Child; I'm not sure what he's supposed to do when supposedly senior and experienced players can't control their emotions in a game that's already done and dusted?
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| So much for McNamara's protests about other coaches criticising their spoiling tactics. Catalans seem to have been aggressively pushing the rules beyond the spirit of the law for a while now, and it is about time they have been hit with a big raft of suspensions like this. It's such a shame as they have a skillful group of players that should be lighting up SL, as we saw with the flash in the pan Challenge Cup win last season.
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| Quote ="Exeter Rhino"It's such a shame as they have a skillful group of players that should be lighting up SL, as we saw with the flash in the pan Challenge Cup win last season.'"
That strikes me every time I watch them - they've got a squad to envy, a first class set-up, and a healthy home following; if they made a conscious decision to pack in all the grubby housery and just play fast, free-flowing rugby to their best potential, they could be consistently in the mix - but there seems to be a chip on the shoulder mentality embedded at the club, that no coach has been able to transcend.
I don't get it at all.
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