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| Quote ="Wildthing"The game against Celtic has been hammered by Wakefield's marketting team over the last month. 10 pounds in and Diversity appearing (for the kids of course!)
I am confident of a 7k attendance.'"
Well for the good of the game i hope you do bring that many (or more in) but it would have to be a hell of a marketing effort to get your 2nd best attendance of the season against celtic.
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| Quote ="Wildthing"-19% at the moment, 2 decent attendances to come (1 against Hull KR who will bring loads
) and that should improve. It may be a disaster now but there are 2 more home games to come!'"
HKR should see you get the same as last year 8,822 and the Celts the same as us or the french ...so about 5,500......so, let's add that to 64,262 already through the gates and you get something like 78,000/13 = 6,000.....which would only be 14% down.....good job
On the point of HKR........it could be that they have nothing to play for and will be saving up for a trip to Huddersfield the following week so I wouldn't bank to heavily on the hoardes from East Hull either.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"HKR should see you get the same as last year 8,822 and the Celts the same as us or the french ...so about 5,500......so, let's add that to 64,262 already through the gates and you get something like 78,000/13 = 6,000.....which would only be 14% down.....good job
On the point of HKR........it could be that they have nothing to play for and will be saving up for a trip to Huddersfield the following week so I wouldn't bank to heavily on the hoardes from East Hull either.'"
Already mentioned Re; Celtic game and attendance.
Anyway ya cockney worry about yer own crowds!
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| Quote ="Wildthing"Already mentioned Re; Celtic game and attendance.
Anyway ya cockney worry about yer own crowds!
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Given up worrying. I have bitten my fingers to the bone (the fingernails went long ago) when it comes to our crowds. I can promise you this, I am far far far more critical of our crowds than any other team and that includes the Skolars who average 350 odd!
I was simply pointing out that last year 90,493 people walked through the gates of Hell View and this year, with 2 games to go, you need 26,231 in two games, with one against The Celts to tread water.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"
I was simply pointing out that last year 90,493 people walked through the gates of Hell View and this year, with 2 games to go, you need 26,231 in two games, with one against The Celts to tread water.'"
Thanks for that. We (the fans) are aware and some of the dips in attendances (despite not being out of the play off places all season) is very concerning.
A strong push at the end of the season will help (as previously mentioned) but yes, very very dissapointing season re: attendances
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| Quote ="adelaide-giant.no9"i think we are up this year by 2.5% .. not the same as last year'"
Average Huddersfield gates this year as against last.
2009 - 7803
2008 - 7,819
16 less fans at each game wasn't worth splitting hairs over so I said that you were the same as 2008.
101,657 visited huddersfield last year over 13 games
This year, 85,828 have walked through the door requiring 15,829 over your last 2 games against Wigan and Bradford to beat that, but as it is, you are actaually .03% down.
I would suspect that Wigan will roll up in numbers, but Bradford ...they are having problems of their own!
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| I'm baffled by the attendances .
This season's average attendance is down to 8917 after 23 rounds . That's nearly a thousand down on last year's regular season average for the whole season .
SL has very little competition from other sports for a significant part of its season , crowds should rocket during football's off season .
Last season rugby union's Premiership averaged regular season crowds of 11414 , despite being in competiton with football .
I accept that football is king in this country . RL will never challenge it in popularity. But why can RU draw larger crowds in the winter than RL in the summer ?
Is it that RL isn't as good a game as we think it is ?
Are most people just too stupid to understand what they're missing by not attending SL games ?
As a lover of both codes , I can't understand why more people who watch RU in the winter don't turn up at SL games in the summer .
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| Quote ="nickcat0"I'm baffled by the attendances .
This season's average attendance is down to 8917 after 23 rounds . That's nearly a thousand down on last year's regular season average for the whole season .
SL has very little competition from other sports for a significant part of its season , crowds should rocket during football's off season .
Last season rugby union's Premiership averaged regular season crowds of 11414 , despite being in competiton with football .
I accept that football is king in this country . RL will never challenge it in popularity. But why can RU draw larger crowds in the winter than RL in the summer ?
Is it that RL isn't as good a game as we think it is ?
Are most people just too stupid to understand what they're missing by not attending SL games ?
As a lover of both codes , I can't understand why more people who watch RU in the winter don't turn up at SL games in the summer .'"
Recession?
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| Quote ="nickcat0"I'm baffled by the attendances .
This season's average attendance is down to 8917 after 23 rounds . That's nearly a thousand down on last year's regular season average for the whole season .
SL has very little competition from other sports for a significant part of its season , crowds should rocket during football's off season .
Last season rugby union's Premiership averaged regular season crowds of 11414 , despite being in competiton with football .
I accept that football is king in this country . RL will never challenge it in popularity. But why can RU draw larger crowds in the winter than RL in the summer ?
Is it that RL isn't as good a game as we think it is ?
Are most people just too stupid to understand what they're missing by not attending SL games ?
As a lover of both codes , I can't understand why more people who watch RU in the winter don't turn up at SL games in the summer .'" the introduction of two "smaller" clubs is more than likely responsible + bradford imploding! round by round totals are up i think.
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| Quote ="nickcat0"I'm baffled by the attendances .
This season's average attendance is down to 8917 after 23 rounds . That's nearly a thousand down on last year's regular season average for the whole season .
SL has very little competition from other sports for a significant part of its season , crowds should rocket during football's off season .
Last season rugby union's Premiership averaged regular season crowds of 11414 , despite being in competiton with football .
I accept that football is king in this country . RL will never challenge it in popularity. But why can RU draw larger crowds in the winter than RL in the summer ?
Is it that RL isn't as good a game as we think it is ?
Are most people just too stupid to understand what they're missing by not attending SL games ?
As a lover of both codes , I can't understand why more people who watch RU in the winter don't turn up at SL games in the summer .'"
Simple. We've added two clubs that average around 4000 each.
Without them the average is around 9800.
RU is more popular than RL and has been for some time. Even when we've averaged higher they've sold out their stadia whereas we haven't.
Doesn't make it a better game, just a fact of life. It was only a matter of time. They fill Twickers easily for nothing games, it was just a case of getting some of those fans to go to club games.
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| Quote ="Wildthing"Thanks for that. We (the fans) are aware and some of the dips in attendances (despite not being out of the play off places all season) is very concerning.
A strong push at the end of the season will help (as previously mentioned) but yes, very very dissapointing season re: attendances'"
The diversity thing was a great coup and should guarantee a decent crowd.
Crowds have been down for Wakey which is strange but some clubs must be hit more by the credit crunch than others. However if you look at last year even, the first 4 games of the year were really well attended and then they dropped off.
Last week was the first time Wakefield have gotten over 7000 since mid March last year. Hopefully the club are realising that something needs to be done.
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| Surely there must be an opportunity to get a fair percentage of RU watchers , and even football watchers , who are missing their live sporting "football based code" fix , to attend SL during the summer .
People who watch the "London" based RU clubs , could be attracted to Harlequins RL . Lancashire has 8 Premiership football clubs , plus many lower and non league , can't more of those fans be persuaded to attend Salford , Saints and Wigan games .
I watch football and occasionally RU during the winter , RL and cricket during the summer . I can't be the only person who enjoys live sport and is prepared to follow more than 1 game .
My local non league football club allows my child in free , thus hopefully snaring the next generation of fan , and ensuring that I pay my £11 to take him. What are SL clubs doing to get fans through the gate ?
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| Quote ="nickcat0"Surely there must be an opportunity to get a fair percentage of RU watchers , and even football watchers , who are missing their live sporting "football based code" fix , to attend SL during the summer .
People who watch the "London" based RU clubs , could be attracted to Harlequins RL . '"
Why? on an automatic assumption that because the ball is egg shaped some people will like both codes? and add to that mix, Wasps, Saracens, London Irish supporters etc etc may well have a total dislike of their London rivals Harlequins RU and so would be unlikely to then come to the Stoop to watch Harlequins RL.
Some will no doubt, some already have, but like the "untapped" antipodean market and "untapped" football supporters market, nothing will encourage people to come the Quins until a community is built through stability of tenure encouraging a love of the sport, which is still to all intents and purposes, alien in the South.
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| yep bringing in another two teams with little fanbase and a drop by bratford primarily are the rerasons. Take out our 3 teams with no fans and we wouldn't be far of RU crowds. If Ru had a team in Hull, St Helens and Bradford in their top league their crowd average would suffer.
HKR's crowd is as big as it will get until the ground improvements happen. Hull's crowd still has capacity to grow by a couple of thousand if they get a consistently winning team, St's should increase by a couple of thousand if and when they get a new ground. We know Bradford has the capacity to increase. so with some ground improvements, team improvements and the slack 3 pulling their socks up or being booted out I see no reason why wouldn't overtake RU in years to come.
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| Quote ="Homer"Why? on an automatic assumption that because the ball is egg shaped some people will like both codes? and add to that mix, Wasps, Saracens, London Irish supporters etc etc may well have a total dislike of their London rivals Harlequins RU and so would be unlikely to then come to the Stoop to watch Harlequins RL.
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My hatred of Wigan RL and Wigan FC didn't stop me supporting Orrell RUFC , even when Whelan and Lindsay owned the lot . Why should hatred of Quims RUFC prevent support of the only RL in town ?
Not all RU fans will automatcically love RL , but my own personal experience of my own family and friends proves that many people like both .
Certainly those RU fans who enjoy back play , can find plenty to enjoy in RL . Admittedly those RU fans who go for the scrums/lineout/rucks/mauls/contest for possesion won't .
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| Manipulated stats.....OK.....I can do them
Wakey.
2008 season, 90,493 fans/13 = 6,961 average
2009 season, 64,262 fans/11 = 5,842
Adjusted 2009 season figures less Salford (6,57icon_cool.gif
57,684 fans/10 = 5,768....a full 20% down.
Look, this isn't a witch hunt, I was just pointing out that Wakey have lost 20% of their gate revenue this season......I didn't expect the spanish inquisition
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Manipulated stats.....OK.....I can do them
Wakey.
2008 season, 90,493 fans/13 = 6,961 average
2009 season, 64,262 fans/11 = 5,842
Adjusted 2009 season figures less Salford (6,57icon_cool.gif
57,684 fans/10 = 5,768....a full 20% down.
Look, this isn't a witch hunt, I was just pointing out that Wakey have lost 20% of their gate revenue this season......I didn't expect the spanish inquisition
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"How does the weekly total compare to last year?'"
I believe that overalll attendane at sl games this seaon is 2% down pro-rata
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| Quote ="gutterfax"I believe that overalll attendane at sl games this seaon is 2% down pro-rata'" thats not good with two extra teams in
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"thats not good with two extra teams in'"
Nope, it is with the same amount of games so it is probably up overall.
No more silly double/trebble headers....27 games per team with 1 odd game for MM. 13 home games to get your average against 13 different teams.), so the same figure to comapare against last year.
2% is actually a good result, given that for example Wigan had Wakey (avg 12,626)and Leeds (avg 14,850) twice last year only to have 1 game replaced by salford (11,550) and Celtic (12,371) this.
All in all, League in general has weathered this seasons recession quite well in both the Sooperdooperleague and the chumpionship...unless we are talking about wakefield that is
In fact....without celtic, we would be on 3,653..........up 4%....Kick the welsh out...what do they bring to the game.........
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Manipulated stats.....OK.....I can do them
Wakey.
2008 season, 90,493 fans/13 = 6,961 average
2009 season, 64,262 fans/11 = 5,842
Adjusted 2009 season figures less Salford (6,57icon_cool.gif
57,684 fans/10 = 5,768....a full 20% down.
Look, this isn't a witch hunt, I was just pointing out that Wakey have lost 20% of their gate revenue this season......I didn't expect the spanish inquisition
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Don’t worry about Trinity, HKR are the visitors in the last home game of the season so that should see the average increase to over 10K easily.
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| I make the average attendance for SL fixtures this year where there was a corresponding fixture last year (basically excluding fixtures involving Salford and Celtic) is 9,850. The average attendance for SL fixtures last year where the corresponding fixture has been played this year is 9,816. So pretty much no change in comparable fixtures.
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| Quote ="SBR"I make the average attendance for SL fixtures this year where there was a corresponding fixture last year (basically excluding fixtures involving Salford and Celtic) is 9,850. The average attendance for SL fixtures last year where the corresponding fixture has been played this year is 9,816. So pretty much no change in comparable fixtures.'"
Total AVERAGE (less Celts and Salford) attendance this year to date is 116156 as against 118,282 in 2008........so as near as damn it, -2%.
Still got a few games to play but all in all, the fans are still coming through the gates..
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Total AVERAGE (less Celts and Salford) attendance this year to date is 116156 as against 118,282 in 2008........so as near as damn it, -2%.
Still got a few games to play but all in all, the fans are still coming through the gates..'"
SBR has used the like-for-like fixtures, though - not the total attendances so far.
Some big games may not have been played yet, and conversely some small games may not have been played - I think SBR's figures are the best in this case.
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| Quote ="J. Willard Gibbs"SBR has used the like-for-like fixtures, though - not the total attendances so far.
Some big games may not have been played yet, and conversely some small games may not have been played - I think SBR's figures are the best in this case.'"
May well be. Bulls, Castleford, Wakey and the quins have yet to have a visit from the neewbies and there are some big games to come. Problem is, Quins v Salford, Wakey v Welsh, Casltleford Celtic and Bradford v Salford aren't exactly top of ticketmasters demand list are they. Leeds Saints is the only game that stands out (especially as wire wigan will be a dead game for one set of fans after this weekend).
Sorry, -2% is where I see overall attendence figures sitting for this season and that's not bad.
Next year (Genesis2) is the real test. Every club has to add fans..........
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