And Hull KR with there dump of a stadium

Yes, you are right.

How did I forget them?

There's nothing wrong with being sceptical and the proof of the pudding will be in the eating, as they say. At the moment they have got over the first hurdle (of many) but it is a step in the right direction. The club now has the challenge of delivering the stadium and good luck to 'em I say.

13024 actually!

So what about Bradford Albert?

After all Odsal is really like an oversized Belle Vue, but because of their 'recent' success, are they infallible in your eyes?

If you have google earth and would like to see the site, paste the following co-ordinates in the fly to box

53°43'35.36"N,1°27'17.82"W


Mike

What about Saints and Bradfod - oh you forgot because they fit into your silly little plan - how convenient.

Saints who will be starting construction in the next few months? Aye.

Calm down, he was making a point to a renowned troll....not having a pop at Saints!!!!

That was what fans at Salford and Castleford were saying 18 month ago. A word of warning, don't believe it until you see them digging the foundation or in the case of Halifax putting the roof on some ten years later!

I hope work begins when you say it will but pride comes before a fall and even Saints are not above the vagueries of Stadium developments.

So for now you are basically in the same boat as the rest of us with a few more boxes ticked - are you not. In which case said troll should have included you.

tbh i think we should stop sniping at each others stadium projects and hope that they all come to fruition for the good of the game

I did not forget about Saints and Bradford.

Saints are much more advanced than the ones I listed - Wakefield, Cas and Salford. I am not worried about Saints. They will be as much a success in building a modern stadium as they are in everything else.

I am worried about Bradford. Their stadium is not up to standard, and they are losing massive numbers of spectators every week by not having a modern stadium. Part of the problem Bradford faces is the influx of Asian immigrants in recent years who don't give a damn about rugby league. But Bradford's stadium is not as dire, not as repugnant, as Belle Vue. Moreover, Bradford remains a much more serious rugby league community than Wakefield. It is ticking off more boxes of the Super league franchise criteria than Wakefield. Bradford will probably scrape through in 2011.

1st of all GL to Wakie on their new ground
2nd of all Alice's Phallus you chat sum right bollox

Now to cas' averave crowds.

8003 current. home games remaining
Leeds Est 11,000
Warrington 7.5-8,000
Catalans 7-7,500
Hull FC 10,000
Hull KR 9-10,000
Wigan 8-9,000
Celtic (last home game) 7,000

Do the sums, That might wipe the smirk off your face.

GL Cas AND Wakefield on thier new grounds. BOTH teams would average 10,000 with new grounds.

Last of all...Im not bothered about a english lesson...I wasnt bothered at school and even less now

Is that a recent phenomenon? I really don't see your logic here, an influx of people who "don't give a damn about rugby league" would have zero effect on Bradfords crowds. What exactly are you trying to say?

WTF -- You write some real garbage.

To even suggest the Asian migrant numbers in Bradford are affecting/will affect Bradford is bordering on the insane.

The non white population of Bradford rose by approx 2% from 1991 to 2001. and most of the non white pop.arent classed as immigrants - they are British born.
The next census isnt due while 2011.
So pray tell,,how do you know there has been an influx of Asian immigrants in Bradford.

Bradford are not losing massive numbers because of their stadium -- their losing numbers because of their on field performances

I'd like to know your source for this statistic of only 2% rise in non-white, by which I assume you include Asian.

l would like to know yours that suggests otherwise!!!???

Why are Bradford's Crowds falling again??? Is it because ''immigrant Asians" are not bothered about rugby league???? You really are stupid aren't you!!........Firstly how ignorant are you?? Secondly, how do crowds fall as a result of people who have never gone to games

I know I'll be accused of being unable to contribute intelligently to this thread - but here goes.

Alice's Phallus. Rhymes with "anchor".

Ignore him!

Because the old people whose family lived in the area for generations are dying off, and the newcomers are people who don't care for rugby league.

[size=109"Banker" of course[/size

It's a good job we play at Twickenham then rather than Southall..........because the predominantly white population of the borough are flocking to see us in droves aren't they......


Albert...do you not find it hard to type with your head up your @rse?

Correct me if l am wrong, but pre Bulls, when the "old people" were quite a bit younger......Bradford's crowds were substantially lower than they are now???

p.s l await your next response with baited breath!

What are you on about there has been a substantial asian population in bradford for a long time, most bradford asians were born here. Whats more slowly but surely more and more asian people are getting into rugby league.

Well said.