over a 6 year period for them to finance that successful venture

Or are you suggesting clubs are put directly into SL without adequate financial backing and just at the whim of a Rugby union owner trying to find somebody to buy pies and beer at his stadium during the summer ?

in that it is one million pound more than you think they will need if their income was to be £0 over an entire 3 year franchise, that if somehow they didnt sell one ticket, one shirt, get one sponsor and even managed to lose £1m a season from Sky before it even got to them?

indeed, very erm, relevant

surely guaranteeing its participation for 6 years would do exactly the same,

ignoring the obvious practical problems of outgoings not always being regular, of there often been unforeseen outgoings that would need to be paid quickly and that often, nay always, in business, at least some of your outgoings are paid by your income.

Where the hell are you expecting them to get £10m from that they can afford to leave in the bank earning pennies in interest, which is about the least efficient way of investing money bar hiding it in the mattress known to man



no, they arent the only two alternatives are they numbnuts? we dont only have a choice between putting £10m in a bank account up front or inadequate financial backing, there is a fair bit in between i think you will find

2 million will pay a competitive playing and coaching staff , the other 1 million for administration , marketing , advertising , junior development and community initiatives , so they guarantee 1.8 million per season paid up front and they still need to find 1.2 million per season to operate , in other reports they or the RFL were suggesting they would not need/recieve any ' central/SKY ' funding

' Guaranteeing ' ? , what with , false promises and lies ? , you are ok to have that ?

The balancing out of imcome/outgoings is usually done by the use of an ' overdraft ' , ask your bank manager if you dont know what they are ?

£ 10 Million ? , well from the bank , or from all the money they make from the RU club , some on here have been ' orgasmic ' in their praise of the owners business acumen , and putting money in the bank to earn ' pennies ' in interest is not the least efficient way of investing money , putting it into sports clubs is the least efficient way of investing money known to man

Stump up the money , or do it the way as requested by the RFL via the Elite,Championships/SL

Oh and why you seem the need to resort again to name calling , ok with that Di*khe*d

They need a team in the LER next year imo. If they dont then they can go bye bye, it at least gives them SOME form of structure and allows them to start building youth teams, Celtic style.
I dont know why you two bicker on every week trying to convince each other when in reality you've no chance and you go round in circles faster than tyres on a motorway

nowt ont telly

I know you're a 'mature' fellow Starbug but these days we a) download things off the internet b) watch things online ala Iplayer, 4od..whats your favourite show? i guarantee you'll find plenty online, legitamate too.
Now, lets not poke a stick at TA any longer, run along

bloody spoilsport

What channel are they on and whats on them ?

you taking the pi$$?
Sarcasm doesnt come across too well on the net

Yeah, right.

Didn't HKR's chairman recently claim that SL clubs were posting average annual losses of £500k? And that Rovers needed to play to crowds of 10k to break even? In that economic climate it's hard to imagine that there won't be several clubs ready to leap out of SL at the end of the current round of franchises.

Could this be the start of Union sides branching out into League? That some forward thinking owners are realising that Union is not meant to be a professional sport. hat the future of professional rugby lies in League?

Union is miles ahead of league.

www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/no ... nd-newport My suggestion of a large cash bond is to avoid scenario's like this

www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/no ... nd-newport My suggestion of a large cash bond is to avoid scenario's like this

at what?

The game!!!!! Never.

Cheating! wWell yes

Boring! Absolutely.

Selling a pup to mugs! Absolutely

first post of yours i agree with

Why thank you kind sir

Which pub are we going to, to celebrate





Your buying

ok, so now not only are they sticking £10m in a bank, they are now turning down a £1m a year

not only are they massively rich, it seems they are also mental



no i would rather they Guaranteed it with a guarantee, you know, a legally enforceable guarantee, when something is guaranteed,
we can leave the false promises and lies to the smaller heartland clubs, they seem pretty good at that around franchise time



why they hell would you need to do that? you can balance your income/outgoings without the need of an overdraft, by maybe having cash in your bank,

but besides, now you are expecting Paris to put £10m of their money in a bank, so they can then pay interest to a bank to borrow money in the form of an overdraft



so now they are borrowing £10m, and paying interest on a loan of £10m so they can put this money in a bank account and earn them less interest than they are making, AND then take out another loan for the day to day running of the club for which they can pay another lot of interest,




the RFL havent requested this at all, they have never demanded a club progress through the championships or the Elite to apply, they have put criteria on clubs which are in the championships, but not those who arent

thats just something the ill-informed think

Quote ="SmokeyTA"ok, so now not only are they sticking £10m in a bank, they are now turning down a £1m a year not only are they massively rich, it seems they are also mental no i would rather they Guaranteed it with a guarantee, you know, a legally enforceable guarantee, when something is guaranteed, we can leave the false promises and lies to the smaller heartland clubs, they seem pretty good at that around franchise time why they hell would you need to do that? you can balance your income/outgoings without the need of an overdraft, by maybe having cash in your bank, but besides, now you are expecting Paris to put £10m of their money in a bank, so they can then pay interest to a bank to borrow money in the form of an overdraft so now they are borrowing £10m, and paying interest on a loan of £10m so they can put this money in a bank account and earn them less interest than they are making, AND then take out another loan for the day to day running of the club for which they can pay another lot of interest, the RFL havent requested this at all, they have never demanded a club progress through the championships or the Elite to apply, they have put criteria on clubs which are in the championships, but not those who arent thats just something the ill-informed think'" www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/no ... nd-newport

Quote ="SmokeyTA"ok, so now not only are they sticking £10m in a bank, they are now turning down a £1m a year not only are they massively rich, it seems they are also mental no i would rather they Guaranteed it with a guarantee, you know, a legally enforceable guarantee, when something is guaranteed, we can leave the false promises and lies to the smaller heartland clubs, they seem pretty good at that around franchise time why they hell would you need to do that? you can balance your income/outgoings without the need of an overdraft, by maybe having cash in your bank, but besides, now you are expecting Paris to put £10m of their money in a bank, so they can then pay interest to a bank to borrow money in the form of an overdraft so now they are borrowing £10m, and paying interest on a loan of £10m so they can put this money in a bank account and earn them less interest than they are making, AND then take out another loan for the day to day running of the club for which they can pay another lot of interest, the RFL havent requested this at all, they have never demanded a club progress through the championships or the Elite to apply, they have put criteria on clubs which are in the championships, but not those who arent thats just something the ill-informed think'" www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/no ... nd-newport

If any other club gets booted out super dupper league than Celtic it will prove just once and all that rugby League is the most corrupt sport in England.

what a pathetic attidude that is.

union was miles ahead of league in france in the 1930s.

then because of people like jean gallia RL got to a position where union was dieing.

the people of france have shown that in a fair contest between league and union we win.

thats why expansion into france is such an easy option for SL

wakey have been lieing to the RFL for years.

until the Crusaders have gotten to that level of deceit its got to be wakey

if ever theres a club which has wasted more money than wakey, id like to know.

something like 10 million pounds from sky money has gone to them

what the heck has it achieved?

ive been thinking that for a while

what keeps union going is the internationals, their club game is stagnating.

with the continued success of club RL, the more enterprising union clubs will want to join the fold.

As much as I have to say it, the main problem with Union is the scrum. Scrums in the professional era are causing long term injuries that were not seen during the amatuer era. Remove the contested scrum and you're on your way to League...