Well what definition do you think I have given to pro players before? If im changing it i surely must have given you one before, otherwise i couldnt possibly change it could i?

Lets see if you actually have a point or are just joining in with Starbugs sweet desperation.

Well i presumed you meant someone who plays rugby for a living full time.

And if you did, that would mean that you were wrong with this post werent you?

ahh yes, the starbug approach of making a presumption (usually wrong) then getting all confused and blaming the other person when that (usually wrong) presumption is shown to be wrong. He has taught you well.

from memory the entire squad wasnt full time, but yes the statement was wrong.

In 2006 three clubs ran what could be described as FT squads in NL 1 , this entailed having a squad of players training during the day ( rather than after normal working hours ) big enough to put out a team on a regular basis , and the money paid to those players being the primary source of income for those players

Those clubs were HKR , Widnes and Leigh , HTH

That is lovely.

Yes it is

Hull KR went full time in August 2005. Prior to that we only had 5 players who where full time. We where knocked out the playoffs by Halifax with a certain Ben Fisher running the show. So we went out signed Ben fisher stayed fulltime for the 2006 season and the rest as they say is history.

Run out of stuff to say.

Praise the lord.

I wonder what that is in German?

Sums you up.

Lobet den Herrn

OR

In Irish...Thank F&(K

It is worrying that Dickie hasn't said either way what is happening.

No confirmation that it will remain at 14, suggests the RFL is cacking itself at the barrage of criticism, plus the huge damage to the credibility of the sport that will occur if any club is chosen to be removed.

No club should be removed based upon the opinions of people who were responsible for allowing Leighton Samuel and the whole Crusaders farce to take place.

They said about 18 months ago it was remaining at 14

They said 18 months ago it would remain at 14, what a forward thinking set up they have at the RFL.

I wonder if anything they said 18 months ago as changed or is it all still cast in iron.

No it wasn't. What about James Webster, Jon Goddard & Makali Aizue? There were plenty of others who played a substantial number of games having come up with HKR from NL1, but these three all played a minimum of 19 which I reckon qualifies as 'any regularity'.

So criticised if they haven't said something and criticised if they have?

Give it a rest.

It's staying at 14 clubs. The RFL have made it clear enough and given no reason (other than not constantly repeating themselves) to suggest otherwise.

Not at all, just don't think they can plan that far ahead, obviously you do and have bought into everything they tell you, good for you i like sheep.

Do any of James Webster, Jon Goddard & Makali Aizue play for Hull KR now? If you would like to name the players (bar the 4 named) who played regularly at HKR in 2007 and still play for them now then maybe you could argue the statement if not, i can only assume you have made the same mistake as the others, which in your case is worse as it has been explained numerous times and pointed out numerous times since, that the statement doesnt mean only Murrell, Fisher, and Cockayne (and Netherton) played for Hull KR in 2006 and 2007. I honestly cant believe so many people got confused by it.

The clubs voted for the amount of clubs to be kept the same. The RFL didnt decide it.

He probably hasnt 'bought into everything' they have told him, just read and understood it. Unlike others.

Back to the Op , but with a different slant on it , having an odd number of teams in a competition as we do in the Championship is also problematic , Leigh this season have only dropped points on two occaisions , both times when playing on a short turnaround against opposition that had had an extra weeks rest , do they have this problem in Australia ? , with clubs losing games having been affected by the ' Bye ' week ?

The RFL has not categorically stated anything. There is absolutely nothing in any of the documentation surrounding the licensing process that states Super league will remain at 14 clubs.

Leigh have possibly been a little unfortunate in this regard, especially with the weeks happening thus far however many coaches argue that the week off is a negative influence. I suppose it depends, if you're carrying a couple of knocks a week off does you the world of good.

Swings and roundabouts im guessing. But no, the 4 day? turnaround probably didnt help

In the Championship this is compounded with the thursday TV games as well , especially with PT players , John Duffy could hardly walk on Monday as he was injured last Sunday leaving the pitch and not returning , but put his hand up to play last night

We hear about SL clubs coaches complaining about the easter matches , quite often a Championship club will play friday/monday/thursday over easter to satisfy SKY , without recieving any monetary compensation

Here here. Hopefully some day the Championhip will get a TV deal in it's own right. I've always though Sunday evening is a great time. Could throw in highlights into that as well. Sure they did that in the past when I was a wee nipper

Other than on their website under licensing, frequently asked questions where they say