I stopped reading after you commented on Baileys 'good defence'. Doesn't count when you're third man in every tackle.

I think its a given that Baileys 'style of play' shall we say isnt in the England Squad plans, hopefully.

On another note, who would ppl recommend for England from Widnes, Salford, Castleford and Wakey? Given that these are generally the teams ppl would drop if the league went to ten teams, what would you say they offer in terms of England potentia;?

I also forgot London.

Is it a bad sign that when I think Super League, they dont jump to the front of my mind.

Either that or Im getting too old to be left alone on tiniternet!

Can't believe Houghton isn't getting the credit he deserves. Played 80mins pretty much every game for the whole season and to a very good standard.

Oh, and Bailey isn't dirty?

tomkins

charnley/riley/briscoe
atkins needs to be in the squad his form has been outstanding
reed/watkins/bridge
hall

widdop
sinfield

peacock
roby
graham
burgess
westwood
ellis

int

morley
hock
mossop
burrow/robinson

Peacock and Morley?
Have you watched either of them this season?

Peacock and morley for the influence they have

It's not because the poster is a Wire fan

What is Bailey's 'style of play' exactly?

Wait for the opponent to be 'held' and come in third man with the option of a cheap shot!

Have you got any examples? I can't seem to remember...

Challenge cup final against us (Wire) last tackle of the game Bailey comes in 3rd man and elbows/punches Riley in the face.

I wouldn't worry about it. No Leeds fan has ever been able to remember a single example of dirty play from Bailey. It's just the way it is.

I thought it was because we're all racists.

You are? I never knew that.

If you criticise Bailey that's what you get labelled, strange but true.

hall is the best all round winger in the world

briscoe and charnley wouldnt have scored the tries he got at wembley against the aussies

Do you do stand up comedy around Wigan ? Most of our players have been a flop against the Aussies including O'loughlin and your full back Mr Tomkins. Can you remember goldenboy turning into Mr Jellyhands when we needed him most. Club form means nothing when it comes to the international arena because the opposition is obviously stronger. I would say every British player has been a flop for the last 40 years based on our results against Australia.

agreed i am a tomkins fan on the pitch but he went to pieces in the final as much as anyone if not more than most

Im pretty sure Adrian Morley and Maurie Fa'asavlu wished that was true.

The only player that didn't go to pieces against the Aussies hasn't even been looked at this time.

Baffling.

Though i sure you would like to throw a huddersfield name in right now,

why are we pretending all our player went to pieces? They didnt, we didnt win, we werent good enough but there were 17 players who played for us, not all of them were terrible.

No they weren't

Just our supposed "best" and "automatic" choices

Not in the game i saw.