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| Quote ="Marsdengiant"The licences should make it easier for clubs to get their quota + non fed to 6. Despite this wakey continue to chase a macedonian passport. They hold onto journeyman exemptions. This is the approach of your club, maintained over several years. Bringing Winterstein over for 5 SL games while Pitts and Bibb were farmed out demonstrates the wakey approach.
You said the RFL were 'pleased with' your academy development. Then you may also know what the RFL think about so many non fed players in a squad.
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Just out of interest, how many players do Huddersfield have in their 1st team squad, that came through their academy system?
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| Quote ="Tommy Duckfingers"So, does Wigan count or not?
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Can't comment on some of the names at the bottom of the list. (there could be some 'Wintersteins' in there). There looks to be 9 non fed trained and one of those (Smith) will not be there in 2010.
Happy for you to name the 10+ non fed trained.
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| Quote ="The Devil's Advocate"Just out of interest, how many players do Huddersfield have in their 1st team squad, that came through their academy system?'"
Try the Giants website and a little research if no one on here can be bothered to do it for you.
I have been delighted watching the likes of Jacko/ Eorl/ Raleigh/ Cudjoe / Lawrence playing regularly in 09. Plus thought the likes of Elliot Hodgson showed promise on his mom winning debut versus Saints on Sky.
The value of good quality overseas signings has played its part. For example Lawrence has learned much from Fatz a NZ international while Cudjoe and E Hodgson have learned much from a player like Brett Hodgson. Rarely would much be learned from a journeyman.
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| Quote ="Marsdengiant"I suspect , not.
Can't comment on some of the names at the bottom of the list. (there could be some 'Wintersteins' in there). There looks to be 9 non fed trained and one of those (Smith) will not be there in 2010.
Happy for you to name the 10+ non fed trained.'"
I think Tommy is classed as fed trained also tbh so that means 8. Down to 7 next season with Tim Smith leaving.
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| Quote ="Marsdengiant"The licences should make it easier for clubs to get their quota + non fed to 6. Despite this wakey continue to chase a macedonian passport. They hold onto journeyman exemptions. This is the approach of your club, maintained over several years. Bringing Winterstein over for 5 SL games while Pitts and Bibb were farmed out demonstrates the wakey approach.
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Pitts signed for Leeds, he wasn’t ‘farmed out’ as you put it. Bibb plays prop and was well down the pecking order mid season hence the loan spell with HKR. Winterstein (which incidentally I was against the signing) plays SR. These players leaving had nothing to do with Wintersteins brief stint at BV.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Pitts signed for Leeds, he wasn’t ‘farmed out’ as you put it. Bibb plays prop and was well down the pecking order mid season hence the loan spell with HKR. Winterstein (which incidentally I was against the signing) plays SR. These players leaving had nothing to do with Wintersteins brief stint at BV.
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5 games for Winterstein suggests he was an overseas player flown across the world to be well down the pecking order. Pitts and Bibb were under contract to wakey, your club chose to farm them out and bring in FW.
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| Quote ="Grego"I think Tommy is classed as fed trained also tbh so that means 8. Down to 7 next season with Tim Smith leaving.'"
Cheers.
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| sean gleeson
dale ferguson
luke george
aaron murphy
kyle bibb
jay pitts
dale morton
all young british players pushing for regular first team places in the last season plus seven new academy signings.
the wakefield production line just keeps rolling
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| Quote ="captaincaveman"sean gleeson
dale ferguson
luke george
aaron murphy
kyle bibb
jay pitts
dale morton
all young british players pushing for regular first team places in the last season plus seven new academy signings.
the wakefield production line just keeps rolling
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sean gleeson - Wigan Warriors
luke george - Huddersfield
aaron murphy - Leeds Rhinos
kyle bibb - Hull FC
HTH.
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| Quote ="Wadski"sean gleeson - Wigan Warriors
luke george - Huddersfield
aaron murphy - Leeds Rhinos
kyle bibb - Hull FC
HTH.'"
All playing at which club again??
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| Quote ="Marsdengiant"Do try and learn the rules about players on one year loans then you will not make this simple mistake. HTH'"
My point was that if you had not "loaned" him to us he his your player and would therefore count on your list. When his loan is up he will go back to you and count on your list.
You conveniently sidestepped the main point of my post which was that in terms of numbers there isn't actually a great deal of difference between your club and ours.
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"My point was that if you had not "loaned" him to us he his your player and would therefore count on your list. When his loan is up he will go back to you and count on your list.
You conveniently sidestepped the main point of my post which was that in terms of numbers there isn't actually a great deal of difference between your club and ours.'"
But he is loaned to you.tThat is the actual state of affairs rather than the fantasy one in your head. His loan is not up for a year. At the end of it we do not know who will be loaned out / retained or OOC. I doubt that even you know
For years your club has appeared to have a high number of non fed trained players. The wintestein episode was a farce and so to is the Stosic escapade.
The actual difference - based on player contracts not your fantasy - is that the Giants have 7 and you have 10 and want an 11th.
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"My point was that if you had not "loaned" him to us he his your player and would therefore count on your list. When his loan is up he will go back to you and count on your list.
You conveniently sidestepped the main point of my post which was that in terms of numbers there isn't actually a great deal of difference between your club and ours.'"
She does that quite often
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| Quote ="SimonBarrett"All playing at which club again??'"
Hardly a production line when you are farming players in from other clubs is it?
More an import business but I think that has been covered in minute detail in the first 12 pages!
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| Quote ="chissitt"I am suprised you can remember your science teacher tigerman eleven, dont you ever stop to think what you might have achieved if you had taken more notice at school. How is the brick hunting going for the new ground btw, have you found one yet?'"
so its not just grammar your having trouble with its math too that is a problem, 1+1 when i was at school was 2, i suppose its no supprise you get 1+1 =11 are you the accountant dealing with tax payments for your club
id say we will find or should i say buy more bricks than you have fans for home games ...... if only your crowds could match your signature collection youd be the best supported team in the league. do me a favour and tell me how did you come across your user name, im on nights tonight i'll print it out and hopefully i can get to sleep quicker
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| Quote ="tigerman11" id say we will find or should i say buy more bricks than you have fans for home games icon_biggrin.gifOH: ...... if only your crowds could match your signature collection youd be the best supported team in the league. do me a favour and tell me how did you come across your user name, im on nights tonight i'll print it out and hopefully i can get to sleep quicker
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Talking of bricks, my auntie for her sins lives in Cas, at the moment she has 8 bricks proping up the front axle on her car where the front wheels' should be, working on that well known Cas maxim exchange is no robbery I suppose she should be grateful for something. Knowing that you have difficulty with the three Rs' I thought I might put your name on one of those bricks for you to save you a few bob, but you must remember when you get the urge to throw it through a shop window in your excitement dont forget the brick it will have your name on it
When I was delivering to POUNDLAND in Cas I was having a cup of tea when I had finished my delivery in that time there must have been at least thirty Cas fans come in to buy an item and everyone of them asked how muchisit hth
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| a warning: I'm bored to the back teeth with you two derailing and ruining threads on the Cas board. Don it on the VT and it's time to wave bye-bye.
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| Thanx for the warning tb since they cannot reply to anything posted just wispfully swerve round posts talking and using bits they want to its pointless infact it isnt even fun as most who have just read their replies can see they are stumped and are probably even lying and making posts up, lets face it car crime happens everywhere in every town village and city however small it is, so i dont see where this post is leading. but it does show how much they do actually dislike and even look down upon people who live in Castleford very interesting indeed.....
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| Quote ="tigerman1+1"Thanx for the warning tb'"
was it unclear?
Quote ="tigerman1+1" since they cannot reply to anything posted just wispfully swerve round posts talking and using bits they want to its pointless infact it isnt even fun as most who have just read their replies can see they are stumped and are probably even lying and making posts up, lets face it car crime happens everywhere in every town village and city however small it is, so i dont see where this post is leading. but it does show how much they do actually dislike and even look down upon people who live in Castleford very interesting indeed.....'"
OK. take a VT break.
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| Back to topic finally.... no offense to Wakey but this whole european passport thing is abit of a joke, its a excuse to bend the rules to bring another aussie import over.
Every club tries or have tried it, one that springs to mind was Hull signing Cordoza? on a spanish passport midway through last season on a short term deal.
The bottom line is if any of these players improved,then went home to the n.r.l and got rep call ups from australia or the said european country(say italy or greece) they'd turn down the green & gold ?
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Stosic cannot get his macedonian passport. Yet according to this article wakey were appealing for an exemption. Clearly they were willing to try anything to get their 11th non federation player trained ! For them 10 is not enough.
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Stosic cannot get his macedonian passport. Yet according to this article wakey were appealing for an exemption. Clearly they were willing to try anything to get their 11th non federation player trained ! For them 10 is not enough.
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Quote ="Marsdengiant"Stosic cannot get his macedonian passport. Yet according to this article wakey were appealing for an exemption. Clearly they were willing to try anything to get their 11th non federation player trained !
For them 10 is not enough.
www.wakefieldexpress.co.uk/wakef ... 5853484.jp'"
Stosic was appealing, not the club. Hopefully Kyle Trout might get a shout, would imagine Paul King will be signed to help plug the gap.
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Quote ="Marsdengiant"Stosic cannot get his macedonian passport. Yet according to this article wakey were appealing for an exemption. Clearly they were willing to try anything to get their 11th non federation player trained !
For them 10 is not enough.
www.wakefieldexpress.co.uk/wakef ... 5853484.jp'"
Stosic was appealing, not the club. Hopefully Kyle Trout might get a shout, would imagine Paul King will be signed to help plug the gap.
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| Quote ="Uptoncat"Stosic was appealing, not the club. Hopefully Kyle Trout might get a shout, would imagine Paul King will be signed to help plug the gap.'"
No help from Mr Robinson?
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