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| Quote ="ThePrinter"You just come up with complete guesswork in your first paragraph then have a go at me for guesswork
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I haven't read all your posts but everyone that I have read is full of misleading statements and untruths as you attempt to sway public opinion that Castleford are cheating and being allowed to break the cap which is not the truth.
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| Quote ="TheDreadnought"Jesus that's funny... .'"
It’s meant to be.
I thought it sounded a bit realistic, so I stuck the bit about the RFL paying part of his wage on the end so it couldn’t possibly be true.
The RFL would never contribute to the wages of players at some clubs but not at others...........
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| Quote ="mrpurfect"I haven't read all your posts but everyone that I have read is full of misleading statements and untruths as you attempt to sway public opinion that Castleford are cheating and being allowed to break the cap which is not the truth.'"
What untruths have I told? And I’ve constantly said they aren’t cheating as the rule does exist, just said it’s a poor rule. Another one that might want to learn to read what is written rather than what they want to see.
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| No issue here for me, its not something that has just been plucked out of thin air this happens quite a lot, its only because Well mentioned it in the media that is is even a discussion point on here. IMO Cas would have been quite silly not to ask for salary cap relief.
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| So Cas have just de-registered Gale? I always assumed fed-trained players were being carouselled routinely and within the rules, tbh. At the wealthier clubs at least.
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| Quote ="mrpurfect"
I haven't read all your posts....'"
oh, you're in for a treat
on 2nd thoughts, don't bother
S'what happens when your superstar team is garbage for a season
Instead of improving the team, just weaken the opposition instead, any myopic way you can.
Failing that, whilst you're banned from your own club forum, just troll the 5h1t out of everyone else.
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| Quote ="Upanunder"S'what happens when your superstar team is garbage for a season.'"
How would you know? You’re a Wakefield fan......now that’s actual trolling.
Me having a different opinion on an issue (in this case the cap relief rule) isn’t trolling, it’s just the point of a message board with debate. Too many on here think anytime someone has a difference of opinion to them it’s trolling.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"How would you know? You’re a Wakefield fan......now that’s actual trolling.
Me having a different opinion on an issue (in this case the cap relief rule) isn’t trolling, it’s just the point of a message board with debate.[size=110 Too many on here think anytime someone has a difference of opinion to them it’s trolling.[/size'"
I am a case in point. People always assume that I am trolling because I take a different point of view, like most French people.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"I am a case in point. People always assume that I am trolling because I take a different point of view, like most French people.'"
You should hook a few with that one.
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| Quote ="Fully"Fair enough.
By not having it you’re penalising clubs in a sport where injuries can occur at any point through any fault of their own. It’s an immensely physical sport and I think we need a degree of flexibility. If you lost 4 players for the season in pre-season, a club could be down £400k on their cap space versus others and only be spending £1.6m on players who can actually contribute versus a club like Warrington spending £2.5m. It’s an uneven playing field and as someone else pointed that already exists with marquee salaries.
As mentioned Gale is nothing more than an off-field employee. We can’t spend more than the basic cap on players who can play this year and we are getting no benefit as Gale can’t play in 2019. We still can only spend the same amount as everyone else. If he does return we have to clear the appropriate space on our cap to be able to fit him back in and under the cap.'"
On the face of it I think that if a player is injured pre season and stays off the playing roster then the club should be able to juggle the cap particularly if it is a route open to all clubs.
However, I must pull you up on your uneven playing field comment as the rules that Warrington operate their cap and roster are open to all clubs?
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| With the contract system it's very difficult to replace a player, whether injured or not. So these cases are going to be few and far between.
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Stop feeling sorry for yourself
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So they should, the circumstances are the same. I can’t say as I agree with either, but at least the RFL are showing consistency - now there’s something you can’t say very often!
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So they should, the circumstances are the same. I can’t say as I agree with either, but at least the RFL are showing consistency - now there’s something you can’t say very often!
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| yet hull denied it for dawson who played 1 game. that's why it's wrong
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| Why, what should it be?
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| Quote ="tad rhino"yet hull denied it for dawson who played 1 game. that's why it's wrong'"
If Hull get it for Dawson only playing 1 game, Wigan should apply for it to retroactively apply to Manfredi who played 0 games in 2017, meaning we didn't exceed the cap.
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| Manfredi played in Wigan's reserve team in 2017 where he picked up another injury - so no cigar on that one.
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| Quote ="little wayne69"Stop feeling sorry for yourself
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I'm not - I follow Cas Tigers.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"Manfredi played in Wigan's reserve team in 2017 where he picked up another injury - so no cigar on that one.
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IIRC he played less than 1 full reserve game, so if Hull can have it for 1 Super League game, surely we can have it for 1 reserve game.
I can't fully remember, but I think Wigan got some kind of dispensation in 2005 for Luke Davico's season ending injury after 5 minutes of preseason. But you know what the RFL are like with consistency & logic.
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| Quote ="tad rhino"yet hull denied it for dawson who played 1 game. that's why it's wrong'"
We didn’t get it in 2016 either when Shenny was injured minutes into the first game of the season and was out for the full season. Plus, that was from an illegal tackle that saw the tackler get a ban. There has to be a line somewhere but, as I’ve said before, I don’t agree with any dispensations - that’s what a squad is for.
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| I'm with you. there's no agenda. thats what a salary cap and academies are for
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No it’s fine when Warrington, Wigan, Saints or Leeds do it
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No it’s fine when Warrington, Wigan, Saints or Leeds do it
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| Quote ="tad rhino"I'm with you. there's no agenda. thats what a salary cap and academies are for'" even reserve sides too
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| Quote ="snowie"even reserve sides too
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Until running with a bigger squad means you go over the salary cap limit like Wigan in 2017
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