Smokey excelled in the Wigan/Cas thread, suggesting that Thaler carried on as he had done in the Leeds/Leigh game; does he actually watch any games?

Smokey ... You remind me of a John Cooper Clarke song..
"What kind of creature bore you was it some kind of bat , they can't find a good word for you but I can ****"

Just to restore a bit of balance to the thread, I thought we (Leeds) were ok on Friday. I've seen us play worse this season more than once. Thoroughly enjoyed the game and tbh wouldn't have been upset had we lost. That's never how I feel when ineptitude costs us a game.

Indeed it ended up a thoroughly enjoyable Cup tie.

Smokey's attitude seems to reflect that of the bitter Leeds fans who were kicking off near the Leigh supporters coaches.

There's an attitude from some Leeds fans that Leigh had no right showing up their big money full-time team with our part-timers.

Well boo-freaking-hoo.

Leeds had their best available side out and they struggled to deal with Leigh in their own back yard and were fortunate to walk away as victors.

What a load of made-up nonsense.

When the players Leeds have dont adjust to a basic defensive ploy. They havent played to their potential.

Once again, Im not going to patronise Leigh by pretending that performance was excellent. There isnt a team in SL who would have come away from that game having been beaten by 13 points by that Leeds performance and said their team played excellently .

Thaler was the VR who gave those nonsensical charge down and obstruction decisions sweetheart. Did you not watch it?

Smokey's attitude reflects that of smokey.

You have your own thread dedicated to praising you, started by a leeds fan pretty much stating what you said in your last sentence. So pipe down.

I've got a souvenir shiner from a bitter Leeds fan just for walking back to my coach, so no, I will not pipe down pal

And I was verbally abused by a Leigh fan just for walking back to my car.

Your attitude seems to reflect that of the drunk, arrogant Leigh fans who were taking the mick, swearing and trying to start a fight with Leeds fans after the game.

Or is it just that some people at RL games are idiots and we shouldn't generalise about people just because of the club they support?

I saw a Leeds fan run up behind a Leigh fan, smacked him, then scarpered.
The Leigh fan, fell, banged his head on the road, lot of blood, and was 'out cold'.
But HIM, you're right.....few idiots can give any 'set of fans' a bad reputation.
Can't remember last time I saw some 'aggro' at a RL game....think I had NO grey hairs last time I did.

That's just like an unexpected punch in the eye.



Where does it? You're really stretching to make a point here.



Where did I generalise? I compared Smokey's opinions to those of the drunken & violent moronic Leeds fans that I ran in to returning to the coach. I made no comments about the large majority of Leeds fans.

Quite suspicious how you started out in your first post saying "Leeds fans were kicking off near the coaches".

Yet didn't make any mention of being punched unprovoked. Only when doubted by others you've then added you've got a black eye from an unexpected attack in later posts. Hmmmmm, I might've lead with that from the start TBH.

You describe it as unprovoked yet tell us the motivation behind it was because Leeds fans were upset that they only won by a small margin instead of a big one. Did your attacker run off saying "if we'd won by 50 you wouldn't have gotten that?"

Whilst not agreeing with Smokey, is him and his posts really comparable to someone apparently punching you?

They're both unacceptable aren't they?


The parts where you're arrogant and taking the mick are there. So I'd suggest my post isn't stretching a point anywhere near as much as yours does where you equate Smokey's views to those of people committing violence. Although mine wasn't serious, it was merely to make a point.


But when you say "some Leeds fans" in the context that you have most people would take that to mean at least a significant minority of Leeds fans rather than the specific few that you ran into, otherwise you would continue to refer to them as you had previously. So you're taking the apparent views (though I'm not sure how you worked out their views are as you described) of a handful of people and assuming plenty more Leeds fans are like that. Then, just because you disagree with Smokey, you equated his views to those few who attacked you.

I've been attacked myself before at an RL game, it was away at Saints a few years ago. Like yours it was entirely unprovoked. I didn't assume all, or any other Saints fans thought in the same way because of that, including any Saints fans I might disagree with on the internet. In the same way as I don't tar any other Leigh fans with the same brush for the idiot that shouted in my and my fathers faces.
Some people are idiots, doesn't matter what shirt they wear or where they're from.

Committing genocide and smoking indoors are both unacceptable, it doesn't make them equivalent...

I didn't say they were equivalent.

Yeah, I guess you didn't, fair enough.

I'm nothing if not reasonable.

Well Michael was on our coach and he did post proof of his shiner in Facebook

. I saw the aftermath of the scuffle which was near where the coaches were parked.
I suspect the ones who started it were a small minority and most Leeds fans were ok .
You'll have to hope it doesn't out people off returning for the grand final there should we get there .
The police were in attendance and took statement s

For all that we can say Leigh were excellent, Leeds were dire.

No attempt to build pressure, trying to throw the money ball on every play and failing to complete sets as well as poor discipline giving Leigh cheap field position.

Having been given those advantages Leigh capitalised on them well, but the performance from Leeds should never have been that poor.

The Leeds coach himself said different

Yeah. He's got enough class, having won, not to go on about how terrible we were and bemoan having conceded 12 points.

It'a a knockout game. Once you're in the hat for the next round, how you got there is irrelevant.

JP is a true warrior of the sport, he respects the biff and was the first to shake hands with sarsfield after the whistle
Sinfield and mcd were equally complimentary and relieved in their interviews for Leeds TV
It was a great night last Friday at a great club with great fans