SAM TOMKINS IS AN IDIOT.to put 2 fingers up at other fans is disgracefull.he says on sky sport text he didnt know what he was doing .what aload of crap.wigan fans will defend him cause they think there better than any one else.should get more than 2 match ban .the ruby league should make an example of him .ruby league is suppose to be a family game .what does seeing a player do that to other fans say to our young fans. lets hope the r f l do some think about it

Things happen in the heat of a game which can be outside the players control, it happens and most players acknowledge the fact and make some sort of apology. I have not seen anything from Sam that would go even close to feeling sorry and that counts against him. He could have issued an apology post match and the Wigan club could have backed that up and handed him a fine and that could well have been the end of it.

The sport has a clear duty to maintain the high level of discipline we have within the game, the fact he has shown no remorse at all is reason on its won to impose a sanction. Wayne Rooney got two matches for swearing the same expletive on Sky I expect the same for Mr Tomkins he has to learn he is not above the rules or common decency.

Booing players for the sake of it is wrong, but a player has no right to have a go back on the field of play he has to be above that.

Im a saints fan, I was sat with the Leeds fans right where the V was directed at.
I thought it was amusing.
I think you lot are getting a bit carried away don't you think??

Fair enough, if it was Graham Wigan fans would be calling for bans etc etc...

so what..
Get over it.

There's a certain amount of predictable overreaction going on, but denying that it's an issue at all or claiming that it's perfectly acceptable is just as daft if not more so.

As for your last point, it WAS on TV and whether it was Tomkins or not that alone would make it an issue that needed to be addressed. Not much point in speculating about what might or might not have happened under completely different circumstances.

All it takes is one drunk or idiot in the crowd to take exception and decide to retaliate physically and you have a major incident. Just one. That's why most sports come down on this kind of thing like a ton of bricks.

Yup.

All Sam is doing with this childish behaviour is painting a big target on his back. What will happen next time he plays for England? He'll be booed. If he was shocked last time he needn't be this time.

The worrying thing is that he is showing that he is affected by the abuse and cannot handle it. What happens when that happens in a pub? Or when a gang of lads is giving him stick when he's out on his own for example? Do we get another 'rugby league star in assault trial' case and have another star dragged through the courts?

Wigan need to get a grip of him and his behaviour before they are mopping up the mess. I just don't understand why the approach of both Tomkins and Wigan is covering their ears and smugly ignoring it? If he came out and apologised, the club fines him and it's all forgotten by the play offs.

As mentioned numerous times it's not the most serious incident in the world, but if left things like this have a habbit of festering in the background until something pops.

Calm down he's only stuck two fingers up at so cave dwellers.

They haven't ignored it, they're not covering their ears and they have disciplined him and made a statement.

[url=http://www.wiganwarriors.com/WContent.aspx?id=6389&type=1Unacceptable Gesture By Sam Tomkins[/url

Now can we all move on?

Aaah the so cave dwellers.

That's good. I believe we are to hear from the RFL at some point though. But it has been sorted internally and Tomkins has apologised and been fined so at least something's been done.

He's been fined by the club and the RFL match review panel are going to review it. www.dropgoalrl.co.uk/sam-tomkins ... sture.html

He's been fined by the club and the RFL match review panel are going to review it. www.dropgoalrl.co.uk/sam-tomkins ... sture.html

He's been fined by the club? Have they taken his dolly mixture off him this week?

He was sucking on victory vee lozenges last week.

Yup. Seems Mr Leneghan listens to my posts on here as much as the rest of them. Good on him. A good statement all round from Wigan.

Just need to keep this thread going a little longer until the RFL have made their decision however

Good to see Tomkins owning up and apologising. His reaction when first quizzed about it was to pretend he didn't know what the interviewer was talking about.

It'll be interesting to see if the RFL add to the punishment from Wigan or just endorse it with a further statement of censure.

I don't think his initial denial helps him much in this regard. Life ban should be their initial ruling, downgraded to a 6 month ban on appeal. Would send the right message and he wouldn't miss next seasonicon_wink.gif

Wigan have got in there first. RFL will just say matter closed

On Sunday, I said:



On Monday, via the Wigan PR bod, Sam said:



The invoice is on its way.

For starters you're not a Wakefield fan, that would involve you actually attending matches. As neither Wigan matches were on SKY you certainly didn't see it. That said even if you had been there you wouldn't have seen it because it never happened. Yet another one of your ludicrous made up stories, give it a rest.

Tomkins ripped Wakey to bit's because he is far and away the best player in the British game at present, end of.

I'm not going yo vilify the only British player not in a Wakey shirt (and that's only out of loyalty) that I would pay to see. He can stick two fingers up all day for me. This hatred of him is pure jealousy and pettiness and typically sad.

Wigan like Cas have a habit of bigging up players way beyond their actual ability but Tomkins isn't one.

You're wrong about that one Vasty; I think the more sensible observers are disappointed that a player with all the attributes you've described, which are undeniable, turns out to be a bit of a brainless scrote who doesn't know how to conduct himself.

That's certainly my position - I think he's a brilliant player who has a habit of letting himself down through unsportsmanlike behaviour; this weekend, unfortunately, like the punchline to an old joke about balloons, he didn't just let himself down...

No denying it was stupid, but I simply don't care. He is the first player RL have had since the hey day of Martin Offiah and Ellery (who really was a bad lad) that people outside the game are talking about. Let's not kid ourselves, one of the reasons he's so interesting is because he's a bit of a tw*t.

I'm personally a bit sick of these identikit roll model and frankly dull players we turn out. Just think back 18 month and we had Brough, he was cut from similar cloth but not quite as good and we loved him - warts and all. He reminds me of Alex Murphy in the way he approaches the game.

Long live Tomkins I say and his win at all cost show off at every opportunity mentality and we'll have a few more please. Let's not make being a winner a crime, they can't all be Gareth Ellis nice guys.

All this talk of opposition fans being jealous is a load of rubbish.

When the Kangaroo's are over here, do people boo Inglis & Slater? Does Roby get booed for Saints?

Fans are booing because he's a cretin and doesn't play within the spirit of the game.

Flicking the V's, grabbing the ref, trying to get players sinbinned, taking dives, flicking his legs up in the tackle when on the ground etc etc.

He's a fantastic player and the best in Superleague IMO. It's for this reason his antics are so noticable, he's the highest profile we have in SL. If it was a lesser known, average player, it wouldn't be that noticeable, but Tomkins is now well and truly under the spotlight due to how good a player he is, so everyone can see it.

I agree about his profile, but I do care. For mine, the very fact that he has some media presence and an emerging profile as one of the games exciting superstars means he has even more responsibility to act accordingly.

Are you on about Danny McGuire?



Obviously not.



Yeah, can't be.