I was really looking forward to this game, thought we'd get beat and I can live with that. But as soon as we get a foothld in the game, the ref has killed us. Okay we've made a few mistakes, but come on he's ruined yet another good looking international.

Oh not this again. The team is 90% the same as what anyone else would pick.

I agree.

Not going to get into the old 'ref cost us the game' discussion, but some of the calls today have been absolutely ridiculous. Some decisions which looked nailed on, go completely the other way and leave you scratching your head.

They turn the game and give the Aussies the momentum.

Indeed. There is no way we deserve to be 26-8 down.

I wouldn't send them back out if I was McNamara. "Come on lads, got not chance against theses cheating tvvats, might be home for hollyoaks tomorrow".

McBannana 0/10
RFL 0/10
Super League 0/10
Atkins, Briscoe, Goulding, Roby 0/10

International rugby league = An old dog that needs to be put down for it's own good

Its the video ref who seems more biased. I mean for Tate's try in the corner, how can a ball bounce that high if its been grounded?

What don't you understand? Gleeson may have been a better player than Atkins/Cudjoe in the centres but what he may add on the pitch he'd certainly take away off it. He's bad for team spirit and on tour that'll really get highlighted. We're well up for it but individual players are to blame for making shocking mistakes.

I can only think of 2/3 players who have not made an error, be it a knock on, penalty given away mis read in defence you just can't get away with that at this level.

The squad was shocking in the backs, how many international games between halves (actual) and backs, about7? Tiny Clubb goes as one of 3 centres yet plays Cudjoe so why take him at all?

I wonder if Archers glasses are Green & Gold. What a Pr!ck!!!!

I like Graham. Has he once been in the ref's face, which you correctly say elsewhere has been disgraceful? Hanley, Sculthorpe, Farrell would have been in there.

Did one explanation not suffice?

This is true it's the pool of players we have to pick from that isn't good enough. Get some proper quota rules in and start with the youngsters now, planning to beat the Aussies in about 20 years time.

I've got Aussie coverage and Wally Lewis thought Tate bounced it and there was a knock-on on the previous try.

He also said our outside backs didn't have a clue and that we were making too many errors

I agree with him on all counts

Ive always been critical of the english pack. I think its cringeworthy when come october, 99.9999999% of english RL fans are chest beating about England having the best pack in the world, only to see it smashed everytime. This has been going on since 1890. However, I thought today, for the first half at least, the english pack stood up well to the bona fide best pack in the world

A tad strong. He made a shocking hash of the kick for that try, but otherwise he's not done much wrong.

Another reflection of how poor SL is compared to the NRL, we are going backwards.

And you base this on what? Rumours from the warrington fans, upset because he moved to a bigger club?

Gleeson should have been there. No two ways about it

Agree. The try in the corner (Tate?) was valid though. Australia are better - England have made too many mistakes. The Refs have ended it as a contest before ht though.

If you have some optimism Skybet have England to win at 200/1.

For you safety betters - Australia to win 1/1000 !!!

I long for the day when we actually make Australia work for their victory. I actually don't reckon they have even got out of 2nd gear yet. Westwood ruined any chance of a good start with his needless penalty and we've dropped far too much ball in our own half. Just pride to play for now, we'll probably put in a decent 2nd half now the pressure is off but we're a long long way off being good enough to compete with the Kiwi's and Australia.

Hang on is that not the stick Graham gets bashed with every week on here? The reason people said he shouldn't be captain?

Offers nothing whatsoever in attack, looks terrified in general. Not good enough. I'd rather have Clubb playing.

1. Tomkins
2. Briscoe
3. Bridge
4. Senior
5. Hall
6. Pryce
7. Eastmond
8. Morley
9. Sinfield
10.Peacock
11.Ellis
12.Burgess
13.O'Loughlin

14.Roby
15.Westwood
16.Graham
17.Fielden

That's what I'd have liked to send over.

Kicking the two rather than running the ball.
Two shocking VR decisions
Flat pass for Cudjoe

Could be close but christ we are making it difficult