Wrong again. There is enough interest now in North America for a 14 team league.

How good is that and discredits any of your previous lack of interest arguments.

Do you get excited about the barla league as well

That's what it should of been

Mate. you say "No problem" then you suggest what is likely to be a massive problem

Anyone (serious not the wums on a wind up) want to predict the crowd levels for the RL cup in England, against what they would be in France?

The 2013 Final here was 75,000 without England being in it? The double header semis were 67,000

The North American world cup was pulled on the inadequate attendance in Denver. We don't have that great a spectator base here in England but it sure beats the French spectator base and if France aren't in the knock outs what will the crowds be then?

So Donnyman 'expresses his opinion', the rest of us do the same but are labelled WUMS and the like. Fair enough?

So you agree that there was interest?

Donny you can't dictate who can and can't holds the world cup but of all the sides entering it there's only a few that has the infrastructure and money to do did so yes I have no problem with french doing it, how ever I don't think there's enough interest within france and it could be a problem financially covering it, as long as it doesn't affect the RFL financially like it did in america then let them crack on with it

ok if it makes you feel any better I'll not call you a wum again



now I'll ask you the question do you too get excited about the barla league as well because that will be the level it will be starting or are you expecting them to super league team equivalent from the start, just to remind you hadn't two teams actually cleared the decks of players and the one that got into debt have they repaid them

well that didn't last long did it



now for the last time just for you I've never said there wasn't any interest over in america and I have always been in support of them with their own league over in own country as it doesn't make financial sense

I'm not dictating anything mate, I haven't got the power.. You agree there isn't the interest in France especially as their team won't make the later stages. You talk about financial losses and of course they are free to crack on with a world cup anywhere they want.

But it's just another case of people who should know better dreaming of what could be for the game if it spread to new audiences, in new places where there would be new investors and new players. The problem with this approach is when they do these things like shift M62 clubs out of Superleague for overseas clubs, and shift the World cup over the France and away from England it damages the sport in the one place it has been successful for 125 years.

This chap who thinks it a great idea ought to do his homework and wake up and realise French Rugby Union has the RL game stuffed in France and no world cup will change that. He needs to wake up and realise that playing the World Cup here not only stabilises the game but gives it a major boost. It's as simple as that and frustrating these people can't see it.

While Rugby League is not as popular in France as England, it's a lot more well known that is in America. The American bid was always ridiculous, they didn't even have a proper league running and the sensible thing would have been to hold the test Test match before the bid was won.

The advantage France have this time is the event would follow the 2023 Union World Cup and 2024 Olympics for which a lot of stadiums, training grounds, hotels and transport will be upgraded. Often councils/governments want further events to justify the cost they have paid out. For example saying part of the Olympics Village will live on as a training base for the RL World Cup ticks a few boxes and helps keeps questions about legacy and waste of cash down.

No excitement for the barla league from me. But the NA league has potential and will be getting similar funding to the Championship.

1. Indeed, but moreso Rugby Union in France dwarfes Rugby League. In essence the idea is like pitting a corner shop against a supermarket. Do the organisers of the RLWC know anything about Rugby in France?

2. And so the RU world cup in France will merely consolidate Unions power and position over rugby league in France giving them the first go at using a world cup to further promote and expand Union in France. This means persuading people to choose RU over RL there....

Pro RL does not work in France, the one club with any substance has to use players from here, it has to play teams from here. The pretenders in Toulouse are not even set up to Catalans level. The game here produces players, it has far more fans and far more TV interest.

Substituting an English club for Catalans depletes Superleague

Substituting TO for another English club further depletes Superleague

Substitute Avignon for another English club and the SKY deal goes, then that will be be pro-RL gone in Europe, France and all.

Let's see who can actually debate the facts rather than just go on a wind up.

Not a bad effort for an April Fool.Struggling with the successful for 125 years,bit.Struggling even more with the problem of the world cup being held in the home of the original world cup finalists.



Struggling with the belief that rugby union does not dwarf rugby league in this sceptred isle,of yours.
Catalans do NOT have to use English players.
Super League is not depleted by having Catalans.
Toulouse are Not in Super League - ergo Not depleted.
It is impossible to debate with a xenophobic,misleading,repetitive individual who is consistently,and incessantly,factually wrong,and who will simply keep on repeating the same mantra on a daily basis and will not be dissuaded.

What's the bleeting problem, by the time this date arrives the EU won't let us in unless we pay Tariffs, France & Germany are well pi**ed off with us Brits, it's not going to happen with all the petty trade wars to come ???

Yet they are and will be more than happy to welcome tourists from wherever they come, be that England or Egypt and the English will be a desperate as ever to visit France and Spain etc.
The fall out from Brexit will continue for many years but, it wont and shouldn't effect events like this.

That doesn't mean that it wont be a test selling out the venues and having a successful tournament but, it will be easier than the world cup that is taking place later this year.
RL has to be more than England or Australia and it has to find new fans, players, sponsors and investors.

At least there is plenty of time to give it chance to succeed and it's up to those at the top of the game to make it happen.

Your back to just slogans



in 1908 Great Britain played Australia for the first time in London, in 1908 they played New Zealand in London. They quickly went on to play Australia in Newcastle, Birmingham and Edingburgh, all in an attempt to grow the game of Rugby League into something bigger and better than Rugby Union. They were looking for new fans, new players, new clubs, new sponsors in new parts of Great Britain and the world.

We've given expansion well over 100 years "to succeed" Those at the top have have tried to make it happen, dozens of new pro clubs have been set up in England and Wales over a period of 125 years from Ebbw Vale to West Wales, and Stockport to Blackpool....Nearly 50 of them. All failed.....

Soccer has professionalised big time and attracted major riches. Rugby Union has professionalised across not just England and wales but Great Britain Ireland and France.

Don't you get it that we are in survival mode? Don't you understand that no SKY TV probably means the end to Professional RL?

The idea that you can put squads of players from here into French clubs, and remove English clubs from Superleague will [i"expand the game" [/i is a nonsense. You completely ignore that SKY don't want French clubs.

Of course several posters on here just keep the "wind up" going because that is all they seem capable of but your a thoughtful and genuine guy so why is it you seem to believe there are sports administrators capable of coming into our game and financially and professional player wise expand the game. Elstone has just resigned after another failure to find more money, head knocks will lead to less talent, and the French tests have been pulled for good.

Don't you see we are in survival mode not expansion mode???

It must be your selective amnesia.More clubs have folded and had more financial issues along the M62 corridor than anywhere else.
Soccer has attracted huge broadcast riches.Many,many clubs are in in serious debt.
Clubs in France seem to be doing quite well.
Perhaps their wealthy individuals are more talented than those in England.Perhaps they can attract better sponsors.Perhaps it is just an English disease.

Lmao. So because you and me can’t afford to travel abroad the World Cup should only be held in the uk? What about the other 350k world wide rugby league fans?

They could not all fit into the ground together anyway.

Oooh you bit

They'll all be off to watch Leigh, obviously

I think them Leythers look after their hard earned too much to be ripped off by them there frenchies over there.

Well, I am a Leigh fan from Manchester & I say bring it on !

I would make a special effort to get to France for a combined holiday & Rugby League World Cup fix. France for a RLWC has lots of value !

clown did I say I've no problem with it being held in France
You need to read and understand what I posted before you comment, try drinking less and post while being sober