Couldn't we utilise this in some fashion?



Yes it's 3 lions but it differentiates itself from the football version by being red instead of white. Insert the words England Rugby League somewhere.

*EDIT - sorry just noticed jamesthepratt had linked to it

The England cross badge is ok in my opinion, but I wonder if a rugby ball and a XIII could be incorporated in some way.

The old England crest was dreadful.

The gold/red three lions crest is used already - by England Hockey.

A tudor flower would be a viable option, but I doubt most people would see it and think England.

Maybe have a teacup and teapot?

If it aint broke don't fix it.

Have the Golden Lion's head on the old Britain top, like the one used in the 2001 Kangaroos tour, but with a round collar. The England flag should have a bit of blue in it anyhow, it looks terrible IMO.

A more modern take on this would have been better

Having said that I don;t actually mind the current shield one.

Excuse my ignorance but why is the English rose red the same as Lancashires?

Because Lancashire won the War of the Roses

I did these a few years back when they were originally redesigning the logo.

Dont mention the war!

That top left logo looks brilliant much better than we the one we have but think we have missed the boat to re-design it now.

I agree we need to stick with it now, I can't quite remember when I did them it was quite a few years ago, if I had the time or inclination I'd refine them as they look dated a bit to me but if the RFL pay me my hourly rate ill re do them

Quote ="christopher"I did these a few years back when they were originally redesigning the logo. www.appliedvisionanddesign.co.uk/englandrl.jpg www.appliedvisionanddesign.co.uk/englandrl2.jpg'" Those are superb. Miles better than the one we've got.

Quote ="christopher"I did these a few years back when they were originally redesigning the logo. www.appliedvisionanddesign.co.uk/englandrl.jpg www.appliedvisionanddesign.co.uk/englandrl2.jpg'" Those are superb. Miles better than the one we've got.

When Henry Tudor took the throne and married Elizabeth of York he combined the embalms. The actual English rose is a red rose with a smaller white rose at the centre.

Once again a forum poster comes up with a better design than the experts. The top left is great. You could probably do away with England Rugby League.

Once again a forum poster comes up with a better design than the experts. The top left is great. You could probably do away with England Rugby League.

To be fair I own my own Graphic Design Business so I would probably be classed as an 'expert' but I still don't think those I did are that good they could be a lot better given more time.

To be fair to the agency that did it as with most things it will have been designed by committee and probably not what they would have wanted to go with, it's usually clients that ruin designs

but they pay the bills.

These are all better to be fair, but the top left is very good.Few tweaks and it could look amazing.

I love top right... i think the Red really stands out and is different yet traditional and most importantly professional.

Whilst I accept there are bigger problems facing modern RL. I think most people agree that in terms of the bigger picture International RL is the way to spear head the games expansion in this country (not relying on failing outpost franchises). England RL as a successful brand (with a great crest and shirt etc...) is crucial to this plan. The beauty of the England 1st XIII is that anyone can get behind them whether you live in Wigan or Weymouth , London or Leigh ! Small things like the crest/logo do really count!

Yep, and I think it's good to get the 1895 reference on there too. To remind/inform people we've been around for a while!

I don't like the 1895 being on there, lets face it, England didn't play a RL game until 1904, and many of the RL clubs were around 20 years before 1895.

1895 only has reference as a breakaway year to me.

interesting point about 1895 you can see that year as positive year or a negative i personally think it doesn't need it but i like the idea of a 1st XIII on there - i think the roman numerals tells you that it is a traditional game played with pride without bringing in the great schism.

I love the red one!

Ditch England.

I shouldn't do this, but go on, I'm dying to hear the reasoning behind this.

Any of those would do for me.

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This is rough, but my idea