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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"
to pretend the big 4 dont dominate the league, when at least 3 have finished top 4 in ever year of SL is just wrong'"
Sadly, it seems that the big 4 has shrunk to be the big two for the time being. The wise money will be that the Challenge Cup will once again be won by the winners of the Saints Vs Leeds tie, in whatever round that takes place, while those two will contest the grand final again.
We will continue to have shock results where the likes of Cas beats Leeds or Saints. This will lead to talk of the most competitive Super League ever, but as you were eluding to in your earlier post, the top of the league will have a very familiar look to it at the end of the season.
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| I think the top 6 will be pretty much the same as this year. Of all the teams in the chasing pack, the two Hulls will be there or there about.
HKR may well be the suprise package if they can get a bit of consistancy together.
I think Quins will suprise a few and may well sneak into the top 8. I worry for Celtic, but I hope they build a well oiled opperation off the pitch.
Agree with other posters here
Leeds v Saints Grand final and the winner of the leeds v saints cup tie will win the challenge cup.
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10. Harlequins RL
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"the SC deductions were from offences committed in 2006, not 2007,
on a matter of quality the big 4 were the top 4 in 2007,
if anything removing 4 points from wigan altered the league to give an inaccurate representation of events, you tried to make a point that the top4 wasnt 'nailed' on because it hadnt happened for 5 years, when that wasnt true, it happened 1 year ago but points deductions artificially altered the league'"
And without that cheating, Wigan would have been in NL1 in 2007. That they did cheat in 2006, ensuring their survival, meant that they had a better team than they otherwise would have done in 2007, enabling them to finish the weekly rounds in 6th place.
And, just one more point that you seem to have missed, Wigan [idid[/i finish in the top four in 2007. Third, in fact. Bradford were the 'big 4' team that missed out on finishing in the top four.
Quote ="SmokeyTA"Leaguefan made a point that part of SLs problem is that it isnt competitive and there is little deviation at the top end. These results are evidence of that
to pretend the big 4 dont dominate the league, when at least 3 have finished top 4 in ever year of SL is just wrong'"
And if anyone had done that, I'd agree with you. No-one has though.
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| Quote ="Fully"1. Leeds
2. Celtic
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4. Catalans
5. Wigan
6. Bradford
7. Hull KR
8. Hull FC
9. Salford
10. Wakefield
11. Castleford
12. Harlequins
13. St Helens
14. Castleford'"
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| Quote ="rhino77"Edited
To make it accurate.'"
Cas playing twice then? Hopefully the other team will have a different away shirt
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| Quote ="Gazemous"Cas playing twice then? Hopefully the other team will have a different away shirt'"
Huddersfield were kicked out because SL needed a team to field 2 teams so Salford and Celtic could be competitive. Obv couldn't be Leeds as they beat Cas with their 2nd team so if Cas were split than there'd be 4 teams at the bottom being competitive
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| Quote ="manu knighted"1. Leeds
2. Saints
3. Warrington/Hull
4. Hull/Warrington
5. Wigan
6. Huddersfield
7. Bradford
8. Catalans
9. Rovers
10. Wakefield
11. Quins
12. Castleford
13. Salford
14. Celtic'"
You can't put Hull that high, how can they reach 4th when they were 11th last season!
Or at least thats what some idiotic Rovers fan thinks....... It's just not possible.
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| 1. Leeds- Much improved with Buderus signing on and will win the league leaders shield with ease.
2. St Helens- A slow start under Potter will hinder their chances of another league leaders shield.
3. Warrington- A few good additons to the squad should see them lead the chasing pack.
4. Wigan- Barrett is a big loss but will still make the play offs.
5. Hull- Will be keen to impress after a disappointing 2008.
6. Bradford- Recruitment hasn't been great but will have enough quality to make the 6.
7- Huddersfield- Have recruited well but will just miss out.
8- Catalans- Will find it hard to carry on last years form minus Potter.
9. Hull KR- A similar up and down season as last year.
10. Wakefield- Will be looking for a good season after so many off the field problems in 2008 but will not have the quality to trouble the 6.
11. Harlequins- Will pick up vital wins at home but will struggle on the road once again.
12. Castleford- Showed glimpses last year they can play but will struggle in large.
13. Salford- A long hard season predicted for last years NL1 winners.
14. Celtic- Will find it tough in SL and I expect they will be on the end of some big scores.
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| Quote ="Alphabetti Spaghetti Go!"NEWSFlash - All teams get injuries. The trick is to employ a coaching team that adapts and copes, not uses it as a season-long excuse.'"
I think Hul deserve to be left out of the slanging matches until the end of next season, depending on if they an prove themselves. I feel around 8th if they struggle with injuries again, if you don't they could finish anywhere between 3rd and 6th.
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| Quote ="Fresh Prince of Chesh-air"1. Leeds- Much improved with Buderus signing on and will win the league leaders shield with ease.
2. St Helens- A slow start under Potter will hinder their chances of another league leaders shield.
3. Warrington- A few good additons to the squad should see them lead the chasing pack.
4. Wigan- Barrett is a big loss but will still make the play offs.
5. Hull- Will be keen to impress after a disappointing 2008.
6. Bradford- Recruitment hasn't been great but will have enough quality to make the 6.
7- Huddersfield- Have recruited well but will just miss out.
8- Catalans- Will find it hard to carry on last years form minus Potter.
9. Hull KR- A similar up and down season as last year.
10. Wakefield- Will be looking for a good season after so many off the field problems in 2008 but will not have the quality to trouble the 6.
11. Harlequins- Will pick up vital wins at home but will struggle on the road once again.
12. Castleford- Showed glimpses last year they can play but will struggle in large.
13. Salford- A long hard season predicted for last years NL1 winners.
14. Celtic- Will find it tough in SL and I expect they will be on the end of some big scores.'"
It's an 8 team play off
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| My prediction now:
Leeds - Will just beat Saints to top spot this time.
Saints - Lost Sculthorpe, Talau and Fozzard, gained Puletua, a weaker squad this year IMO.
Wigan - Barrett a big loss, but IMO will still lead the chasing pack
Warrington - Higham and Carvell are good signings, will be close to Wigan
Huddersfield - Hodgson and Carney are great signings, I think they'll be up there.
Bradford - Good pack, poor backs, although they will make the play offs.
Hull - Think they'll improve from last year. Crocker, Thorman and Calderwood are decent signings.
Catalans - Bell and Ryles will take a while to settle in, the same with the coach and on paper it looks a better squad than 08 but I think the slow start will mean they'll just make the play offs.
Hull KR - Will just miss out again I feel.
Harlequins - Maybe a lot higher, but they've lost some good players (Hill, Henry, Sheriffe)
Castleford - Looks a better squad than last year.
Salford - Smith and Swain are good signings I'd expect them to compete.
Wakefield - Poor squad. Brough and Drew are the only ones with the wow factor.
Celtic - Long hard season for the Crusaders, but hopefully at the end of the 3 years they'll be where Catalans are now.
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| I reckon Hull could challenge the top 2 ( Leeds and Saints ) because they have gained Thorman and Crocker. Also they still have players like Manu and Yeaman with quality.
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| Quote ="No1_Saints _Fan"I reckon Hull could challenge the top 2 ( Leeds and Saints ) because they have gained Thorman and Crocker. Also they still have players like Manu and Yeaman with quality.'"
I think your mad!
Surely this is a wind up?
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"I think your mad!
Surely this is a wind up?'"
Maybe I am mad but I reckon Hull will do well this year and finish in the top 5.
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| Quote ="No1_Saints _Fan"Maybe I am mad but I reckon Hull will do well this year and finish in the top 5.'"
You just said challenge the top 2 and named Thorman as a possible key to their success.
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| Well the other teams in the top 5 are the only ones to challenge the top two.
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