Was probably a yellow but you're talking wet. Australia had some terrible calls against them, especially in the first half.

Westwood pushed the boundaries all game. I'm surprised he wasn't sin binned, to be completely honest with you. He deserved too - A long with Watmough.

I agree Yeaman was poor, but I really dont know what game you were watching if you thought Briscoe had a bad game. fwiw I thought Reed was the worst of our backs. Cost us a try by shooting out of the line and aside from his try (great take) he did nothing else. In fact it would surprise me if someone said he touched the ball more than three times.

sam tomkins runs across the field crab style, i suppose that makes him sub-standard!

Think your the one talking crap fella, Williams should have seen a red card and in the rule book you can't sin bin for foul play.

Westwood was superb throughout, if your looking for someone who pushed he boundaries look no further than Gallen.

Wasn't Reed's fault that try was scored. Was abysmal goal line defending from Tomkins and whoever else was there. There was ample time and room to smash the Australian and prevent a try.

Switch roles and the Australians would have prevented that try, with or without one of their rushing up out of the line

But the difference is when Sam Tomkins ran across the field he drew defenders and either played his man into a break or made a break himself. Briscoe runs up - very, very slowly - and is tackled. He poses no threat and is completely ineffective.

I don't know if we get opta stats from these games but it'd be interesting to send how many tackle busts Briscoe made for someone who is 'completely ineffective'.

did he not make breaks at all? chase down thurston or even set up 3 trys?



Nah your right he is terrible shouldn't even be professional rugby player

Red card for an accidental high shot? Give over. Was nothing malicious about it and Westwood milked it for all it was worth.

If an England played was red carded for a similar incident nobody on here - yourself included - would view the decision as the right one.

And Westwood was superb. But if we're talking about players deserving to be binned for ing about in the ruck then Westwood was the worst offender on the field.

Not sure what you're talking about Gallen for, this isn't 2008. He didn't do much interfering or slowing down at all. Westwood, Watmough and Smith were the key offenders tonight.

Thurston is slow. It was shocking that he managed to make as much ground as he did on that break.

When everyone on the thread minus Bulls4Champ is disagreeing with you, it's time to think maybe you should wait till you watch the game sober before commenting.

Quote ="Old_Faithful_IAKW"I don't know if we get opta stats from these games but it'd be interesting to send how many tackle busts Briscoe made for someone who is 'completely ineffective'.'" Briscoe broke one tackle and made 0 line breaks. live.nrlstats.com/matches/nrl/match11779.html

Quote ="Old_Faithful_IAKW"I don't know if we get opta stats from these games but it'd be interesting to send how many tackle busts Briscoe made for someone who is 'completely ineffective'.'" Briscoe broke one tackle and made 0 line breaks. live.nrlstats.com/matches/nrl/match11779.html

I wouldn't say "everyone" is disagreeing with me. 3 people have disagreed with me. And it's fallacious to think that because an opinion is unpopular that is must be wrong.

Briscoe was flat today. Any average winger could have played as well as him.

In what way was Williams tackle different to Ewards or Morley?

It was a straight sending off offence and accidental, lazy or any other defence doesn't make any difference.

Mate, are you taking the here or what? Edwards and Morley are 2 of the worst, most insane high and blatant high shots that you'll ever see in a game of Rugby.

Williams went to make a bog standard tackle and caught Westwood high. Was nothing malicious, Westwood milked it and it looked terrible because Williams is a monster of a man. If little Billy Slater accidently sticks a man with his forearm like that the game plays on and nobody gives a .

That was a yellow card. It's a red card on Rugby Union, in Rugby League it's a yellow.

Back from Wembley. Funny game.

First thoughts were that Australia played well within themselves. England seemed to think they are better than they are and, for me, did not play flat out.

A few more mobile and skillful players like Tomkins and we'd create alot more.

Reed is a liability when defending close to the line and gave away a couple of tries.

Ref. made a couple of shocking decisions and lost control for a few minutes second half. He was out of his depth and seemed unsure of the rules.

Whoever decide on the kick from the tap - coach or player (who was it?) should immediately be dropped and never represent England again. Most ridiculous thing I can recall seeing in decades.

Overall, a game that had its moments but one that turned out flat and a bit of a flop for me.

ok what about setting up 3 trys? or making the breaks? i think your just trying to be awkward now.

if you think tomkins was poo then darius boyd must be horse e.

I didn't say Tomkins was . I said I didn't rate Briscoes performance - 2 different players and 2 different statements.

Learn to read. And saying someone had a bad game is different to saying someone is a bad player. I don't know enough of Briscoe to pass comment on him on the whole, all I know is that his game today didn't impress me in the least and I thought he was a weak link.

Tomkins was the best player on the field from either side. It would be scary what he could do to England if he was Australian and played in their side.

A pleasure to watch tonight but sadly its probably pushed him closer to a Union move.

I'll say again, you cannot sin bin someone for foul play, persistent foul play yes but one incident no!

There is no defence within the rules for what Williams did, accidental, poor technique, off balance or any other you want to dream up do not exonerate a player when he makes such a violent and heavy impact above the shoulders of a ball carrier.

You can repeat your defence of Williams a million times but you'll still be wrong!

Good performance, we were on the wrong end of some calls, and the rub of the green certainly went Australia's way and we kept it close and thats something to build from. I certainly saw nothing in that Australia team that should make us nervous. We matched them throughout and could have won if we had cut out some of the silly mistakes we made.

The Briscoe no try was a disastrous decision. I can forgive a ref getting a call wrong, what i cant forgive is him not following the process. He had to refer it to the VR, there was no reason not to refer it to the VR and because he didnt we ended up with the wrong decision. Unacceptable from the referee. I think a few other things went against us as well but from time to time they will. The play the ball was an absolute mess as well.

Sinfield, Roby, Peacock, Morley, Tomkins were very good and more than stood up. Ryan Hall was absolute quality. We cower from the Aussies three-quarters, but Hall would have stood out, even if he was wearing a green and gold jumper, top quality performance from a young English winger against the Aussies. It was a wonderful sight. Jack Reed made things happen he is an exciting talent. Tomkins, Hall and Reed look like an actual threat against the Aussies and that is something great. It has been a long time since we had 3 players in our back 5 who the kiwis and kangaroos will be going on to the field worrying about.

On the negative: Yeaman struggled, but im not sure what we have to replace him. Chase made too many wrong choices. I cant fathom why we would start with Chase and bring on Widdop against tiring defences when Widdop looks like he could give us a lot more structure and Chase looks like he revels in broken play and off the cuff plays than he does turning pressure in to points. To me it seems obvious that if we use those two players we do it the other way around.

All in all, we look probably two world class players away being able to regularly beat the Aussies, though there was plenty to build on if we qualify for the final and no reason why we cant beat them in a one off. Id like to see Widdop start against the Kiwis with Chase on the bench and see how that works. I could have liked to see another prop on the bench tonight in place of Wilkin and I think thats what we should go with next week.

What are you talking about? You have no clue

Match Report: northernsportsreport.com/2011/11 ... australia/ Reaction: northernsportsreport.com/2011/11 ... r-critics/ Thoughts?

Match Report: northernsportsreport.com/2011/11 ... australia/ Reaction: northernsportsreport.com/2011/11 ... r-critics/ Thoughts?

anyone hear or know todays attendance?

42,344

pretty good really.