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| I don't know why everyone is so down on cool and calm kooky Koukash. He is spending Koukash cash, but the recipients don't appreciate him.
Salford Red Devils, with its feeble fan base, and its poorly located and poorly transport serviced stadium, was just not worthy of his generosity.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"I don't know why everyone is so down on cool and calm kooky Koukash. He is spending Koukash cash, but the recipients don't appreciate him.
Salford Red Devils, with its feeble fan base, and its poorly located and poorly transport serviced stadium, was just not worthy of his generosity.'"
He should have bought Bradford instead
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| Quote ="charlie"He should have bought Bradford instead'"
His interest in Bradford didn't appear extend to paying off debt, nor in a credible funding of a new start up club. He had the chance to buy Bradford but didn't (not withstanding the odd rumour of him funding us secretly which is so contrary to his style I find hard to believe). So if you assume that Bradford and Widnes are both (broadly speaking) equivalent attractive propositions, then you'd assume that he isn't coming to save Widnes, unless it's to relocate.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"I don't know why everyone is so down on cool and calm kooky Koukash. He is spending Koukash cash, but the recipients don't appreciate him.
Salford Red Devils, with its feeble fan base, and its poorly located and poorly transport serviced stadium, was just not worthy of his generosity.'"
Still banging that drum eh, just what the hell is your problem with the supporters who turn up to Salford games.
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| Quote ="RoyBoy29"Still banging that drum eh, just what the hell is your problem with the supporters who turn up to Salford games.'"
I don't have a problem with the fans who turn up to Salford games. My use of the turn "feeble" does not refer to the character of the fans who turn up. It refers to their numbers.
I do have a problem with the concept of a professional rugby league club that has so few fans who turn up to games.
I have also made clear --- and you ignore this --- that I regard London Broncos as a flawed club because of its small fan base. However this is compensated for by the fact that London Broncos' presence in Super League, even with a very small fan base, unlike Salford's presence, serves other very important purposes for the growth of the game.
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| Quote ="RoyBoy29"Still banging that drum eh, just what the hell is your problem with the supporters who turn up to Salford games.'"
He has got a point. Just, you know, a very small one.
Salford has put a competive team together (admittedly in the past I've had my issues with them) and the fanbase doesn't really represent how good the team is.
That stated, there were quite a few Salford fans at our place last Saturday and seemed to enjoy themselves at our expense (yet again). Good on 'em.
Anyway, fingers crossed for Widnes. As for moving to Liverpool, I'm pretty sure that wouldn't be seen as saving the club to most true Widnes supporters.
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| Quote ="RoyBoy29"Still banging that drum eh, just what the hell is your problem with the supporters who turn up to Salford games.'"
Don't know why an Ocker has any interest in this forum TBH other than the fact Barry Mckenzie is a Troll, but lets face it without our Bazza this forum would be dead.
So Bazza just carry on with your inane ramblings.
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| Quote ="Salford red all over"Don't know why an Ocker has any interest in this forum TBH other than the fact Barry Mckenzie is a Troll, but lets face it without our Bazza this forum would be dead.
So Bazza just carry on with your inane ramblings.'"
It's dead because trolls like Bartholomew McKenzie have ruined the site. Whole sets of fans have taken their individual forums elsewhere through incessant trolling and the VT has also suffered. People just cannot be ar$ed listening to thread after thread of utter garbage being spewed and I don't blame them.
I find it incredibly sad that some people find great delight in ruining other people's enjoyment and healthy debate but unfortunately that's the internet for you. If it's not on here it's Twitter, if it's not Twitter it's Facebook etc etc.
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| Quote ="SaleSlim"It's dead because trolls like Bartholomew McKenzie have ruined the site. Whole sets of fans have taken their individual forums elsewhere through incessant trolling and the VT has also suffered. People just cannot be ar$ed listening to thread after thread of utter garbage being spewed and I don't blame them.
I find it incredibly sad that some people find great delight in ruining other people's enjoyment and healthy debate but unfortunately that's the internet for you. If it's not on here it's Twitter, if it's not Twitter it's Facebook etc etc.'"
I packed in Twitter and Facebook when I gave up my business, best thing I did, after having a break away from this website for a while i only come back to see how are stadium issues was going but I'm fast losing it with petulance posting on here now
No idea what enjoyment some get on winding others up
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| Good luck to the new board of Widnes.
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| Quote ="MorePlaymakersNeeded"Good luck to the new board of Widnes.'"
Have they been saved?
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| It appears so, but there's some players that are moving on.
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| We’re saved but not the owners we wanted really. Very grateful we still have a club but the consortium who have purchased the club (8of them) fell short of the mark needed and have already handed out redundancies. Players will be next on their way out. Depending on how bad the exodus is going to be, time will tell.
If we’re left with a squad that struggles to make up the -8 points, we may as well have started a fresh in league 1 next season.
The owner of bury F.C. wanted to buy our stadium off the council, clear debts and put money in but the council wouldn’t sell the stadium so that deal fell through.
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| Glad there's a future Pat, and it's better than liquidation in my view. Looks like you're down the Bradford route of points deduction, relegation and rebuild. By the way, is there any wriggle room to get the deduction reduced? Main thing is that Widnes can look to taking the field again, and hopefully, the town will get behind them no matter what's on the scoreboard.
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| Good to hear that you have been saved some time in the future hope to see you back were you belong
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| I take it that now they have reformed as a new club they won’t be eligible for any more parachute payments from the RFL. Where will this money no win go?
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| Quote ="THECherry&Whites"I take it that now they have reformed as a new club they won’t be eligible for any more parachute payments from the RFL. Where will this money no win go?'"
At a guess, shared among the SL clubs!
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| I just hope this new consortiums bid has been through proper scrutiny and Widnes do not go belly up again in six months time.
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| Quote ="Bostwick"I just hope this new consortiums bid has been through proper scrutiny and Widnes do not go belly up again in six months time.'"
Same here, it’s a real fear. All backroom staff gone, Tangata has just confirmed he’s been released. Quit his part time job and Halifax role to go to Widnes. Currently injured and can’t get a new club. There’s still no money. All season ticket money has gone. Parachute payment has gone. It’s bad.
Inu and wellington Albert are rumoured to be leaving.
Sam Walter has signed for Leeds. England academy prospect, very good player.
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| At least you still have a club Pat....onwards & upwards !
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| Quote ="Pats plastic pitch"Same here, it’s a real fear. All backroom staff gone, Tangata has just confirmed he’s been released. Quit his part time job and Halifax role to go to Widnes. Currently injured and can’t get a new club. There’s still no money. All season ticket money has gone. Parachute payment has gone. It’s bad.
Inu and wellington Albert are rumoured to be leaving.
Sam Walter has signed for Leeds. England academy prospect, very good player.'"
Tangata'a had quite a pop at James Rule on twitter i believe.
All the best to widnes hope it works out
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| Thanks. Yeah haha, nothing less than he deserves.
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| Inu has also confirmed on twitter that he's gone.
Have they just released the injured players or something? Ruthless.
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| Quote ="Nothus"Inu has also confirmed on twitter that he's gone.
Have they just released the injured players or something? Ruthless.'"
Looking that way which is shocking, both now free agents with no job.
No words really
Apparently Gelling is staying which is a boost and a mystery given what’s been happening financially.
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| Quote ="MorePlaymakersNeeded"Glad there's a future Pat, and it's better than liquidation in my view. Looks like you're down the Bradford route of points deduction, relegation and rebuild. By the way, [uis there any wriggle room to get the deduction reduced[/u? Main thing is that Widnes can look to taking the field again, and hopefully, the town will get behind them no matter what's on the scoreboard.'"
Only if you take on and pay off the debts (fairly quickly) I think and from the limited stuff out there at the moment it doesn't look as though they'll be doing that.
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