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| Quote ="Leaguefan"The key starting point is to get the game under the same umbrella in this country, run by people independent of club/league affiliations, with the authority to make the decisions for the betterment of the game.
That is the platform from which all other decisions need to develop from.
From that the next set of decisions, some which would put peoples noses out of joint, would be developed but that is another story.
Without the first step, the rest of the journey cannot continue.
Without that kind of cohesive force, the game at all levels will continue to lurch from crisis to small success back to crisis continuously as it does now.
Oh, and I realised this a long time ago, this would not be easy. It would need a complete change of attitude by people, something not easily done but without it the first step couldn't even be taken for a journey to benefit the game as a whole in this country and eventually the Northern Hemisphere.'"
Absolutely, it'd be a good starting point. Unfortunately our sport is not made up of people willing to put the game ahead of their club/ego. At all levels. And the game suffers at all levels because of this.
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| GUTTERFAX "but as long as you keep biting, I'll keep posting "
Say's it all to me.
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| Quote ="Les Dyl's red boots"GUTTERFAX "but as long as you keep biting, I'll keep posting
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Say's it all to me.'"
What does it say? I'm intrigued as to what "all" is and how me engaging in banter on a website says it. I see from your other 74 posts that you seem quite preoccupied with my opinions.....maybe you will share your thoughts with us all.
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| I think the RFL need to step in and put a deadline on this deal or its just going to keep dragging out. one party wants to take the club over and the 2nd party wants to be reimbursed for taking out loans.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"What does it say? I'm intrigued as to what "all" is and how me engaging in banter on a website says it. I see from your other 74 posts that you seem quite preoccupied with my opinions.....maybe you will share your thoughts with us all.'"
Well, I'd say that it says you're deliberately posting negative and inflammatory comments, not to add to any ongoing debate, but rather to simply provoke a reaction to stoke your own ego. Or to simplify that, you're a self confessed troll and no one should listen to anything you have to say because of that
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| Quote ="dubairl"I think the RFL need to step in and put a deadline on this deal or its just going to keep dragging out. one party wants to take the club over and the 2nd party wants to be reimbursed for taking out loans.'" Given the RFL have just mediated between the parties and the planned buyers are, for now, back at the helm I'd give it a bit more time to resolve the finer points.
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| Quote ="MjM"Given the RFL have just mediated between the parties and the planned buyers are, for now, back at the helm I'd give it a bit more time to resolve the finer points.'"
I must say that I was a little surprised how quickly there [iappeared [/ito be a positive response once Ralph Rimmer had banged the naughty boys' heads together.
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| Quote ="Wooden Stand"I must say that I was a little surprised how quickly there [iappeared [/ito be a positive response once Ralph Rimmer had banged the naughty boys' heads together.'"
He's quite nifty when it comes to kickboxing!
So what now, is Omar still seeking legal action? Are things back to how they were before the announcement on Xmas eve?
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| Quote ="roofaldo2"Well, I'd say that it says you're deliberately posting negative and inflammatory comments, not to add to any ongoing debate, but rather to simply provoke a reaction to stoke your own ego. Or to simplify that, you're a self confessed troll and no one should listen to anything you have to say because of that'"
Negative comments are ten a penny here and they only inflame because you know they are true! I have no ego to stoke by the way. Your indignation at anything you see as anti-bulls is indicative of the problems faced by RL. It's always club over the good of the game.....
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Negative comments are ten a penny here and they only inflame because you know they are true! I have no ego to stoke by the way. Your indignation at anything you see as anti-bulls is indicative of the problems faced by RL. It's always club over the good of the game.....'"
That maybe true of others, but your "You keep biting" post suggests YOUR comments are not about the good of the game or any of the higher ideals you clam but instead are made to score cheap points against the Bradford club and it's fans.
Why would someone "biting" at one of your posts be cause for comment unless you WERE posting purely to be negative and provoke that reaction for your own amusement rather than bringing anything constructive to a debate?
You're a troll, pure and simple.
And as for you posting something true? Given the amount of stuff you make up and call true, then when you actually post something true that is cause for celebration.
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| Quote ="roofaldo2"That maybe true of others, but your "You keep biting" post suggests YOUR comments are not about the good of the game or any of the higher ideals you clam but instead are made to score cheap points against the Bradford club and it's fans.
Why would someone "biting" at one of your posts be cause for comment unless you WERE posting purely to be negative and provoke that reaction for your own amusement rather than bringing anything constructive to a debate?
You're a troll, pure and simple.
And as for you posting something true? Given the amount of stuff you make up and call true, then when you actually post something true that is cause for celebration.'"
Nibble nibble.....you really can't help yourself can you!
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| Gutterfax needing some attention again? You would think with all the money he tells us he earns and all the text messages he gets from super important people in his super important job in NZ he might have something better to do than mock Bradford fans because their club is struggling,
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Nibble nibble.....you really can't help yourself can you!'"
Well you certainly can't. Troll
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Gutterfax needing some attention again?'"
Hello Pot....have you met Kettle
Quote ="roofaldo2"Well you certainly can't. Troll'"
Troll eh?
I have never felt the need to call another poster a name because I have been shown my point of view is incorrect but I have freely admitted when I have been wrong.
The same can't be said for you or Smokey TA
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| Quote ="gutterfax"
Troll eh?
'" yes, and a busted one aswell, hence you needing to go on to the total rl forum aswell to make the exact same posts, because you simply weren't getting enough attention on here.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"yes, and a busted one aswell, hence you needing to go on to the total rl forum aswell to make the exact same posts, because you simply weren't getting enough attention on here.'"
Exact same eh? In which threads? Barnet or London's future expansion?
This is a thread about the favouritism shown to Bradford bulls by the RFL but rather than discuss it, some posters would rather muddy the waters because they worship Nigel and the iconic bulls
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| Quote ="gutterfax"
This is a thread about the favouritism shown to Bradford bulls by the RFL but rather than discuss it, some posters would rather muddy the waters because they worship Nigel and the iconic bulls'"
Exactly.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Exact same eh? In which threads? Barnet or London's future expansion?
This is a thread about the favouritism shown to Bradford bulls by the RFL but rather than discuss it, some posters would rather muddy the waters because they worship Nigel and the iconic bulls'"
The perceived favouritism shown to Bradford. But as there hasn't been a club in the same position Bradford has been in, it's hard to actually justify the claim that the Bulls are getting preferential treatment. But please Gutterfax, give us examples of where the Bulls have been on the receiving end of something no other RL club have had from the RFL.
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| Quote ="roofaldo2"The perceived favouritism shown to Bradford. But as there hasn't been a club in the same position Bradford has been in, it's hard to actually justify the claim that the Bulls are getting preferential treatment. But please Gutterfax, give us examples of where the Bulls have been on the receiving end of something no other RL club have had from the RFL.'"
Possibly a substancial loan made to them with no genuine collateral?
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| Quote ="Starbug"Possibly a substancial loan made to them with no genuine collateral?'"
Anything to prove no other club has been on the receiving end of similar loans?
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| Quote ="roofaldo2"Anything to prove no other club has been on the receiving end of similar loans?'"
No , but no proof they have either
The Bradford loan, we know about, to automatically assume others have had similar substancial amounts loaned without any proof is crazy
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| Quote ="roofaldo2"The perceived favouritism shown to Bradford. But as there hasn't been a club in the same position Bradford has been in, it's hard to actually justify the claim that the Bulls are getting preferential treatment. But please Gutterfax, give us examples of where the Bulls have been on the receiving end of something no other RL club have had from the RFL.'"
are you 5 years old?
The defence of "they did it first" is something I expect from Junior school Kids. You are in denial to the extent you should seek medical help if you think the amount of assistance dealt out to the Bradford Bulls since the start of the 2012 season isn't a clear example of favouritism.
I care not if the Failed Crusaders from Wales were bailed out to the tune of millions....it's not relevant in a thread about the 2006 World Club Champions and how the RFL has bent over backwards in supporting them, to the extent that if the Bulls go tits up now, then the RFL will have a whopping great white elephant in the shape of a leasehold on a property that would do well to see 5k crowds in the lower divisions.
I have suspicions as to the actual amount of money given to the London Broncos by the RFL on an annual basis, but that too has no place in this particular debate.
Neither does the atrocious treatment of Wakefield, who found themselves having to cut their cloth and sell players to ensure they survived, whilst Bradford Bulls shamelessly shook a bucket and begged for support from anyone who would listen.
Most SL clubs are run appallingly, of that there is no doubt, but currently, Bradford get the full attention of their LANDLORDS whilst other clubs get the occasional visit from Blake Solly.
BTW, I will continue to post comments about summer concerts as a cornerstone of the Bradford Bulls v.6 (or is it v.7) business plans, because it shows how out of his depth Whitcut was in planning them and how out of his depth Moore is for supporting them! Call it what you want, it is still true!
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| Quote ="Starbug"No , but no proof they have either
The Bradford loan, we know about, to automatically assume others have had similar substancial amounts loaned without any proof is crazy'"
But the only reason Bradford's came to light is because they weren't in a position to pay it back. To assume Bradford are the only club to get a loan of this type is foolhardy. Also [url=http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/rfl-loan-to-stave-off-wind-up-order-949559Bradford aren't the only club to have had a loan from the RFL[/url
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| Quote ="roofaldo2"But the only reason Bradford's came to light is because they weren't in a position to pay it back. To assume Bradford are the only club to get a loan of this type is foolhardy. Also [url=http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/rfl-loan-to-stave-off-wind-up-order-949559Bradford aren't the only club to have had a loan from the RFL[/url'"
Correct, which is why I stated ' genuine collateral ' , keep proving my point if you like
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| Anyone know how much the RFL loan to Wakefield is and what it is secured against?
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