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| Quote ="wire quin"If thats what you think, fine. You really missed it didn't you!!!
I'm completely underwhelmed by the announcemnet of a Bingo company as a significant sponsor of RL. It speaks volumes of how the sport is perceived by industry.'"
So a market leader, who chooses to offer sponsorship to the game is underwhelming? What leading bingo operator would have you doing cartwheels?
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| Quote ="Wheels"The industry will surely know that this brand is a major player in a £600m market, and is owned by one of the biggest companies in the world in Bwin.
The industry is not stupid.'"
It might be a bit misleading, Foxy really are a small player in this industry market of £600 000 000, its Bwin having a turnover of £250 000 000 who are the bigger player. I think Foxy have a turnover over of around £60 million so they won,t have a big enough profit to give the RFL a multi million pound deal.
Perhaps it would have been better for Bwin to be the sponsor, hopefully the RFL will put something out figure wise before the season starts.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"It might be a bit misleading, Foxy really are a small player in this industry market of £600 000 000, its Bwin having a turnover of £250 000 000 who are the bigger player. I think Foxy have a turnover over of around £60 million so they won,t have a big enough profit to give the RFL a multi million pound deal.
Perhaps it would have been better for Bwin to be the sponsor, hopefully the RFL will put something out figure wise before the season starts.'"
A 13% share in a £600m market is pretty substantial in my book!
As you say, lets hope it leads on to bigger and better things. Theres no reason why it can't.
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| Quote ="wire quin"If thats what you think, fine. You really missed it didn't you!!!
I'm completely underwhelmed by the announcemnet of a Bingo company as a significant sponsor of RL. It speaks volumes of how the sport is perceived by industry.'"
Have you ever been to a game? With greatest respect to my fellow treizists, a lot of the women look like they partake in a spot of bingo, be it online or otherwise. The RFU has a partnership with Bollinger. Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think we have many fans who sup champers like fizzy pop, so with the best governing body in the world, we would never get a sponsorship with them, or similar.
Companies don't part with their hard earnt because they think they can promote their brand to a target audience. Rugby league prides itself on being a working class family sport, and so in the main that is going to be the type of brands we work along side. Throwing words like flat cappers and M62 corridor about in disgust won't achieve anything. I for one am proud that RL hasn't abandoned its roots (by and large) unlike soccer for example. £62 for a ticket, but lovely adverts for FTSE companies left right and centre!
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| Quote ="Wheels"A 13% share in a £600m market is pretty substantial in my book!
As you say, lets hope it leads on to bigger and better things. Theres no reason why it can't.
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Not sure I,m looking at there 2011 Company Accounts, can,t find there 2012 submission.
Bwin have 4 major income streams with net turnover of 128m, 132m,
65m and 26 m. The figure for Foxy is the latter one.
Seems as though there online activity is big in China based on broadband data. Bwin's CEO investigated recently for gambling violation laws.
Wonder what odds we can get with Bwin that the RFL will announce the detailed partnership before superleague kick off.
CORRECTED: The 26m figure will be Bwin,s bingo and not Foxy as they only merged mid 2012, so that figure will not be Foxy,s turnover.
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| Quote Have you ever been to a game? With greatest respect to my fellow treizists, a lot of the women look like they partake in a spot of bingo, be it online or otherwise.'"
3 season tickets at the Broncos-2 of which are owned by women
If your content with bingo sponsors then great.
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| Quote ="wire quin"3 season tickets at the Broncos-2 of which are owned by women
If your content with bingo sponsors then great.'"
realistically, who, bar a bingo company, are going to become Super Leagues official Bingo partner? I would be very surprised if was Riotinto or GSK.
Having a bingo partner doesnt preclude SL from having other sponsors.
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| The more sponsors the game can bring in the better.
As long as they're paying sponsors that is.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Having a bingo partner doesnt preclude SL from having other sponsors.'"
I think its this bit he is struggling with the most.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"realistically, who, bar a bingo company, are going to become Super Leagues official Bingo partner? I would be very surprised if was Riotinto or GSK.
Having a bingo partner doesnt preclude SL from having other sponsors.'"
Agreed.
I wonder who will be announced as SL's official pawn-shop & payday loan partners?
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| Quote ="William Eve"Agreed.
I wonder who will be announced as SL's official pawn-shop & payday loan partners?
'" 'Your Super League Conversions, brought to you by Cash Converters, As reliable as Kevin Sinfield and as happy to take your gold!'
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| Or maybe Poundland, get to watch a game for a quid, 2 programmes for a quid, game of bingo at half time for a quid.
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| Quote SmokeyTA wrote:
Having a bingo partner doesnt preclude SL from having other sponsors.
I think its this bit he is struggling with the most.'"
Lets see who we get
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Or maybe Poundland, get to watch a game for a quid, 2 programmes for a quid, game of bingo at half time for a quid.'"
People would still complain about it being too expensive.
The same people would also complain about us not having high calibre sponsors (whose products are very expensive) too it seems.
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| Quote ="wire quin"Lets see who we get'"
Well lets, but it seems a little premature to start castigating them now.
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"People would still complain about it being too expensive.
The same people would also complain about us not having high calibre sponsors (whose products are very expensive) too it seems.'"
You mean like Union gets Maximuscle League gets Big Soup, Union get Bollinger while League gets Irn Bru.
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| Quote The same people would also complain about us not having high calibre sponsors (whose products are very expensive) too it seems.'"
Your foxy bingo fans will complain about anything like a decent sponsor
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| Quote ="Judder Man"You mean like Union gets Maximuscle League gets Big Soup, Union get Bollinger while League gets Irn Bru.'"
Union gets Maximuscle League gets Optimum Nutrition, although Maximuscle used to be a League partner and remain partners with many League clubs.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"You mean like Union gets Maximuscle League gets Big Soup, Union get Bollinger while League gets Irn Bru.'"
Do you think there might be any reason for that?
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| Super League is a brand in itself, everyone calls it that. Anyway, I'd refer them to have three minor sponsors, and have full sponsor for the Challenge Cup and if possible the Championships.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Do you think there might be any reason for that?'"
Maybe we should go for quantity minors.....Barbour, Tilley, Stetson + Ted Baker they all promote and sell flat caps.
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| Quote Judder Man wrote:
You mean like Union gets Maximuscle League gets Big Soup, Union get Bollinger while League gets Irn Bru.
Do you think there might be any reason for that?'"
......like the game is played in depressed areas of Britain
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| Quote ="wire quin"Quote Judder Man wrote:
You mean like Union gets Maximuscle League gets Big Soup, Union get Bollinger while League gets Irn Bru.
Do you think there might be any reason for that?'"
......like the game is played in depressed areas of Britain'"
We could start a team in London? I hear there's people queueing up to support a team in London.
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| Quote ="OzWelsh"Super League is a brand in itself, everyone calls it that. '" Indeed it is and I imagine that undermines its value to sponsors (although it is clearly a strength in other ways). Comparing RL sponsors with RU ones is a pointless excercise but it is worth noting that he RU Premiership is referred to by default by fans and media with the sponsors name. Super League in general conversation doesn't.
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We could start a team in London? I hear there's people queueing up to support a team in London.'"
Make no mistake the away drunks that turn up at the Stoop doesn't help nor does the northern "flat cap" perception of the sport.
At the moment the game is what it is. If it wants to move to the next level then it requires a significant re brand.
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