Bradford Nrothern is a proper name, but what about Leeds Rhinos ?????

On a serious note, plenty of businesses go pop and re-form under new management and with the Bulls name and strong support base there should be no reason that they couldn't do the same (assuming that they cant avoid admin)
It will still be a bumpy ride and they would no doubt lose some star players but, in the long run, for the supporters, this would only be a blip and not the end of the world.

London escaped punishment because no rule exist to levy any. That was changed in the aftermath and there is now a points penalty for entering administration which would carry over to any new company that might follow should admin lead to liquidation.

Yeah I knew about the points deduction for going into admin. Sorry, I didn't explain myself very well, I meant really an additional punishment for going into liquidation ontop of the points deduction for admin. Wakefield went into admin and rightly received the 4 points deduction, but managed to avoid liquidation IIRC. I don't know if there is any written rule regarding liquidation but I don't think there is one other than the SL clubs have to vote a newco back in. I just think there might be some validity in distinguishing between simple administration (as in Wakefield's case) and liquidation (as seems the most likely in Bradfords) in terms of punishment.

A points deduction in a non relegation league is a joke and everyone knows that, so don't bother with the charade of 'punishment'. Punishment is relegation to C1 for 2013 if the club folds.

So being denied the chance to be in the playoffs is not punishment? Ask Melbourne & Canterbury if they think they weren't punished.

Wooooooo the play offs?Like Manna from heaven that is.Probably one extra game for Bradford.Away.In front of a small gate.Yep,denying them that would be tough.

Its all relative, to be excluded from the play offs when you have a reasonable chance of winning is certainly a strong punishment but, to be excluded when you are only an outside bet is no hardship.
Its like someon nicking your raffle ticket

So what do you suggest? A fine? Financially punishing a club with financial problems probably isn't the best idea.
Forget the notion of Bradford being relegated, it's never going to happen and quite rightly.

Highly ' Speculative ' I would have said

Thing is, I thought the money from play-off games was put into a pot and split between the clubs involved? So if that's the case, missing out on the play-offs will cost a club financially.

With respect Roofaldo, you haven't got into the playoffs yet and it is/was by no means a certainty.
The one sure thing IMO is that there will still be a rugby league team at Odsal next season, its just the current situation that needs getting over.
Good luck with it !

Once again ' Speculation '

I think what the RFL should have said about the Halifax bid was it was based on "Massive speculation the size of Nigel Wood" as opposed to just "speculative". But see, now they know what to say to Featherstone next time round so that no-one is under any illusion and doesn't end up confusing SL feck ups to "probable" Championship ones.

If Bradford go into Liquidation and need the be voted back into SL by the other clubs, they can rely on London voting the right way....

Let's face it - Bradford - starting from zilch after a financial enema and rising like a fat phoenix are still ahead of Championship clubs in terms of SL viability so talk of banishing them to the lower leagues is ludicrous.

However, the RFL cannot just sit and do nothing. They can't just sit back eating digestives, and say "it's not our problem" whilst spitting out crumbs at every angle. What's happening at Bradford, what happened at Wakefield and (to a lesser extent) what happened at Crusaders should be ringing alarm bells. Blaming it on the recession is bullcrap. There is something really wrong when a flagship SL club goes bust. If they went back to Sky and asked for more money the clubs would just over-spend as before. The current salary cap obviously isn't much of a financial safety net for some clubs.

Clubs going to the wall is nothing new but when the RFL trumpet a league as being "super" and lay down strict guidelines for membership the whole thing unravels when members behave like hard up council estate trogs trying to keep their golf club membership - stupidly given to them by a careless committee.

Bradford liquidating and going to C1 with 2017 being the next franchise bid would show how much Bradford fans/sponsors want their club to be a success.

The mistake the RFL made was quietly dropping the percentage of turnover limit from the SC rules. This clause was specifically added to try and stop clubs from overspending on playing staff and getting themselves into the kind of trouble we have seen recently. Now everyone can spend up to the cap limit regardless of how much cash they have in the bank. Barking mad given RL clubs' history of spending themselves into oblivion.

What do each of the clubs turnover?



How many would it effect?

a little bit of karma headed Bradfords way?

I don't have the exact figures, but in order to spend full cap and break even a club needs a turnover around £3m-£4m. There's only a handful of clubs who achieve that - you need an average crowd figure of ~10k plus decent commercial input. Or a rich backer.

The minimum requirement for an SL licence is just £1m.

I can pretty much guarantee that Nigel Wood will sit back eating digestives (as his starter obviously, KFC bucket to follow, before main course begins), and blame *anything* before he questions the performance of the RFL. The one thing they're good at is telling us how great they are.

I don't know, but I always get a good korma heading Bradford way.

You're right of course that the 50% requirement shouldn't have been scrapped. However Bradford would still have qualified to spend the full cap and so wouldn't have affected them in this case. Maybe a harsher requirement of 40% or even 30% of income is needed?

Maybe a less optimistic budgeting process ????
Expenditure = Less than income
This works for most successful businesses

I'd agree, but I'm not sure the RFL could enforce that without getting rid of most clubs except Leeds, Wigan & Hull.
The RFL can't run every club, all they can do is put rules or systems in place to try and help or encourage clubs be run the right way.
If some clubs are still determined to be stupid then nothing will stop that.