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| Quote ="Gronk!"I guess you struggle with basic comprehension?
Where did I say the tackle was fine, or that he shouldn't be banned for it?
Oh wait! That's right, I didn't say that.
The tackle deserves a ban, it will probably get banned but the notion he lead with his elbow is preposterous.
Not a very good troll are you?'"
Your an idiot, sue me.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"The tackle deserves a ban, it will probably get banned but the notion he lead with his elbow is preposterous.'"
There was no tackle. Not even a poorly executed shoulder charge. A shoulder charge does not involve raising your arm/elbow to the side and following through for a start. What Chase executed was a deliberate strike at Ropati's head using his forearm and elbow.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"Pause it at 11 seconds and you'll see first contact is Chase's shoulder, but it's still high.
So if he gets a ban it will be the same as what Moa got for the same challenge.'"
you're just embarrassing yourself now...
terrible tackle... 6-8 games for me.
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Posted this on't Cas board - Different view.
It appears to me that Chase jumps into the 'challenge' and leads with his forearm with the intent to cause harm. Initial contact was on the chest but he didn't look like he intended it to stay down there and it ended up full on in the face.
Dirty.
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| Having seen that angle it does look deliberate. Chases only defence can be bad technique which he’s going to have to put one hell an argument in to convince them otherwise. Either way he’s looking a decent ban, 4 games minimum.
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| I wonder what Gronk's views would be if Ropati had put that hit on Chase?
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| should be banned from playing for England for life.
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| Quote ="Mr Dog"I wonder what Gronk's views would be if Ropati had put that hit on Chase?'"
Is this the same Gronk that accuses every visiting teams supporters of causing trouble?
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| Quote ="BigTonyB"should be banned from playing for England for life.'"
So should Morley be banned for all his illegal tackles over the years? Should any player who cops a ban be banned for playing for England? Don't talk wet.
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| That angle is pretty damning - so much for bicep-gate, that's a full blown forearm smash. If there is any justice, Chase will spend the next couple of months as the most expensive water carrier in SL.
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| Quote ="deeHell"Having seen that angle it does look deliberate. Chases only defence can be bad technique which he’s going to have to put one hell an argument in to convince them otherwise.'"
His celebration afterwards won't help his case either.
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| Doesn't get any better to watch from that angle. He should get a long ban, bet he doesn't though.
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| lets hope he cleans up his act before he arrives at Warrington next season.
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"lets hope he cleans up his act before he arrives at Warrington next season.'"
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"lets hope he cleans up his act before he arrives at Warrington next season.'"
He'll fit in well with Morley, Carvell, Westwood, Higham & Bridge.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"His celebration afterwards won't help his case either.'"
Exactly this. The fact he stands there proud of himself after what he's done says all that needs to be said about his intentions.
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| There are lots of variables here.
I'm not sure how the burden of proof falls in disciplinary.
The first decision will be what he is charged with -
Forearm is more lenient ; reckless is more lenient:
B-C Strikes with hand, arm or shoulder – reckless
C-D Strikes with hand, arm or shoulder – intentional
Elbow is worse (obviously) as is intent.
C Strikes with elbow – ball carrier – reckless
E-F Strikes with elbow – ball carrier – intentional
His other problem will be with aggravating factors:
Previous Record - I'm not sure of his past record
Violence - No place for acts of intentional violence or thuggery.
− Includes head butting, vicious attacks with fists, intentional high tackles, kicking a prone opponent, an assault on an opponent from behind, gouging.
− Unprovoked violent assaults punished severely & period suspensions considered.
Retaliation - wasn't an act of retaliation
Injury caused - If the Misconduct has caused injury to an opponent, this may result in a higher penalty than if no injury had occurred.
− Panels may consider the length of time an injured opponent is likely to be out of the game when passing sentence.
Incident not part of play
Other aggravating factors
It is all about intent.If the panel proves intent (or if Chase fails to prove recklessness) then we are into 3 or 4 month bans rather than 3 or 4 matches...
They will take length of injury into account as well.
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| Do we know if Chase has actually been cited? The RFL Disciplinary page only lists players up to 9 April. Am I right in thinking hearings take place on a Tuesday?
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| Think the citings etc normally appear monday afternoon/evening.
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| Gronk appears to have gone missing since dum dum put the other view on...
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| Quote ="Marfa Manu"Gronk appears to have gone missing since dum dum put the other view on...'"
He's busy on Photoshop.
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| Quote ="vastman"I have no idea where Chase is going, but he is playing like a player on his way out - he's been tapped up IMHO.'"
Dunno about that. Apart from his petulant little outbursts when things weren't going his way, he looked very good against Hull. His main problem is that he's surrounded by crap.
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| Looks like Mick Cassidy all over again!!
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| Quote ="vastman"I have no idea where Chase is going, but he is playing like a player on his way out - he's been tapped up IMHO.'"
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